Fox News defamation case

Started by neurosis, March 13, 2023, 06:59 AM

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If it weren't for double standards, leftists would have no standards at all.
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RobertELee

Quote from: mkd on March 13, 2023, 12:20 PMHow are they different, smarty-pants??

One's Fox and one's MSNBC/CNN/orwhereverhesheworks.... DUUUUUHHHHH  :beat:
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Tim Johnson

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on March 13, 2023, 12:22 PMIf it weren't for double standards, leftists would have no standards at all.
All Demmies aren't like that. There's a couple of them here that will argue hard like you're the enemy and then come over and help with bringing in furniture or replacing a roof and I do the same for them. We do argue a lot but it is just for fun.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: mkd on March 13, 2023, 12:20 PMsmarty-pants??



Sorry I'm still Laughing. ;D

prolly the nicest thing anyone has said to him. :)
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mkd

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Quote from: Incogneeto on March 13, 2023, 04:15 PMSorry I'm still Laughing. ;D

prolly the nicest thing anyone has said to him. :)
It's a term of endearment as far as i'm concerned. I hope I don't dissuade Mr. Smit coming around, with my super abrasive musings. Honestly he livens the place up.
seriously.
 If anyone happens to get in contact with Matthew Hajacik, tell him I'm sorry for being such an abrasive jackasss.
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neurosis

Quote from: mkd on March 13, 2023, 07:38 PMIf anyone happens to get in contact with Matthew Hajacik, tell him I'm sorry for being such an abrasive jackasss.

Someone tried to reach out to him and he's not responding. I have a feeling that he wont be coming around anymore. 
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Smit

Quote from: mkd on March 13, 2023, 12:20 PMHow are they different, smarty-pants??
 Please back up your statement.

Still waiting for one of your more distinguished Republican brothers to step up and tell you to do your own fkn research.

I'm sure they'll be around any moment now.  :whistle:
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beej

Quote from: Smit on March 14, 2023, 01:54 AMStill waiting for one of your more distinguished Republican brothers to step up and tell you to do your own fkn research.

I'm sure they'll be around any moment now.  :whistle:

I have to admit, that I don't understand defamation cases at all. If you are just giving your opinion it's not defamation, but if you state it as fact than it is defamation? is that right?

But if you state it as fact to the extent that it seems like exaggeration on purpose, then that proves that it's opinion?  I honestly can't make sense of it. but I would like clarification if anyone understands it better than me.

Rachel Maddow, Tucker Carlson, Hannity, all they do is opinion, so I don't really get it, I guess.
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neurosis

Quote from: beej on March 14, 2023, 06:15 AMRachel Maddow, Tucker Carlson, Hannity, all they do is opinion, so I don't really get it, I guess.


The difference in the Fox defamation case, is that they were pushing a narrative on air while privately texting each other that they knew what they were telling people was complete nonsense. 

I didn't really follow the Maddow case at all so I don't know the details. I do know that she won both the first case and the appeal.

I have a feeling that Fox could potentially beat this as well. Defamation is pretty tough when as you say, you're talking about opinion shows. The one thing that surprises me about Fox, is that with all of the evidence against them they didn't just settle. They must be pretty confident that even though they've been busted lying to and admitting to lying to their audience, it won't affect their ratings.  And it probably wont.
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mkd

Quote from: Smit on March 14, 2023, 01:54 AMStill waiting for one of your more distinguished Republican brothers to step up and tell you to do your own fkn research.

I'm sure they'll be around any moment now.  :whistle:
Clever. Accuse the other side of what you are actually doing in the accusation.
 I'm still waiting for the esteemed forum liberal to take a position instead of making insinuations.
 People in hell want ice water.
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gcode

Quote from: neurosis on March 14, 2023, 01:50 AMSomeone tried to reach out to him and he's not responding. I have a feeling that he wont be coming around anymore. 

Mathew has an active account on eMC and does post there occasionally.
I PM'd him mkd's apology
I will report back should he reply
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neurosis

Quote from: Newbeeeeâ„¢ on March 14, 2023, 08:59 AMWho said what to piss him off?
Was I napping?

I don't think that it was any one person. The last topic he was involved in had some back and forth going on and I think that it eventually bothered him enough to move on. 

I don't usually see Matt get to the point that he becomes impolite in a conversation. He's one of the few who don't.  He was getting a little wound up in that last one. 
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gcode

Here is Matt's reply

QuoteThanks.  I just figured I don't need the stress of interacting with people who I disagree with so vehemently, while I'm trying to grow a business and deal with everything else that life throws my way. I've basically banned myself from political discussion for the foreseeable future.
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RobertELee

Quote from: neurosis on March 14, 2023, 09:32 AMI don't think that it was any one person. The last topic he was involved in had some back and forth going on and I think that it eventually bothered him enough to move on. 

I don't usually see Matt get to the point that he becomes impolite in a conversation. He's one of the few who don't.  He was getting a little wound up in that last one. 

When he found out there were no balloons and parades for him at the 1000 post mark he ran away like a child.
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neurosis

Quote from: gcode on March 14, 2023, 10:12 AMI've basically banned myself from political discussion for the foreseeable future.


That's probably not a bad policy to have if it's just a frustration to him. 

Hopefully he'll change his mind and come say hi some time in the future. 
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