Shingles Vaccination?

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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Newbeeeeâ„¢ on June 04, 2023, 11:14 AM^^^^ @neurosis you can LoL.
https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2023/02/13/Pfizer-and-BioNTech-start-Phase-1-2-trial-for-mRNA-shingles-vaccine#:~:text=The%20mRNA%20shingles%20vaccine%20candidates,virus%20in%20the%20nerve%20cells.


Yet...exactly.
Big Pharma is working on it as we know.

So that raises a valid question: If the current shingles vaccine is safe and effective, why would Big Pharma spend the time and money to change the delivery mechanism?

If it ain't broke don't fix it.
If someone is fixing something that ain't broke, they have ANOTHER REASON for fixing it.  :rolleyes: 

Yes, I am THAT skeptical... :yes:

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JParis

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on June 05, 2023, 06:58 AMYet...exactly.
Big Pharma is working on it as we know.

So that raises a valid question: If the current shingles vaccine is safe and effective, why would Big Pharma spend the time and money to change the delivery mechanism?

If it ain't broke don't fix it.
If someone is fixing something that ain't broke, they have ANOTHER REASON for fixing it.  :rolleyes: 

Yes, I am THAT skeptical... :yes:

Because it's a different company, Pfizer, that is trying to come up with something so they can cash in on it as well.

Jim at Gentex

Quote from: JParis on June 05, 2023, 07:00 AMBecause it's a different company, Pfizer, that is trying to come up with something so they can cash in on it as well.

That's ONE possibility.
There are other answers that are far more nefarious, but let's all pretend THAT can't happen... :rolleyes:
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JParis

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on June 05, 2023, 07:03 AMThat's ONE possibility.
There are other answers that are far more nefarious, but let's all pretend THAT can't happen... :rolleyes:

I fail to see how it's a "possibility" it's fact...it's a different company trying to add an option

CNCAppsJames

Ever listen to those pharmaceutical ads on TV? "Side affects include ... 'possible death.'".

:rofl:
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JParis

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on June 05, 2023, 07:08 AMEver listen to those pharmaceutical ads on TV? "Side affects include ... 'possible death.'".

:rofl:

I am pretty sure that "can" happen with almost any shot you get or medication you take....there will be extreme outlier cases....

Jim at Gentex

Quote from: JParis on June 05, 2023, 07:06 AMI fail to see how it's a "possibility" it's fact...it's a different company trying to add an option


Yeah, until that 'option' becomes the ONLY option.

Look, we are already seeing an alarming increase in things like miscarriages, strokes, myocarditis, etc., that eerily coincide with the rollout of the mRNA COVID jabs.

Yes, correlation isn't necessarily causation, but those events still COULD BE related.
If you are not even open to the possibility of that being true then we will just disagree.
"Never argue with idiots.
They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

Jeff

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on June 05, 2023, 06:58 AMwhy would Big Pharma spend the time and money to change the delivery mechanism?

Money. Period.

Make a "revision" so you can rebrand it and charge more.

Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Jeff on June 05, 2023, 07:32 AMMoney. Period.

Make a "revision" so you can rebrand it and charge more.


Yeah, I get that part.
But then why would health care providers have been PAID by the pharma companies to increase the number of COVID vaccinated patients in their networks?

That doesn't make good business sense if making money is your only driver.
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They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

Jeff

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on June 05, 2023, 07:37 AMBut then why would health care providers have been PAID by the pharma companies to increase the number of COVID vaccinated patients in their networks?

So they can make even MORE money from boosters and "variants" of the chinavirus.
Delta, Omnicron, etc...
The more people that are jabbed, the more money they make from the 1st booster, the 2nd booster, etc...

pmartin

Quote from: Ajmer on June 02, 2023, 01:45 PMgot the 1st shingles shot in Feb
didnt really feel any after affects

my father had shingles, was not fun for him



It was exactly the same for me.

Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Jeff on June 05, 2023, 08:02 AMSo they can make even MORE money from boosters and "variants" of the chinavirus.
Delta, Omnicron, etc...
The more people that are jabbed, the more money they make from the 1st booster, the 2nd booster, etc...

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR...they wanted as many people jabbed as possible for some other reason, even if they lost money up front.
That's where I'm at.

Let's look at the global birth rates in 2032 compared to 2022.
I know, 10 years is a long time to wait, but if what I believe MAY be happening is ACTUALLY happening, I predict a steady decline in birth rates globally as those children who were vaccinated in the first wave of COVID mania reach child-producing age.

Of course, there will be all sorts of 'sciency-sounding' explanations to account for it, but if I'm still around in 2032 I will still be pointing to the 'vaccinate-everyone-at-all-cost' strategy of the early 2020's.  :yes: 
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gcode

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on June 05, 2023, 07:08 AM"Side affects include ... 'possible death.'".

That is a true statement every time you get in a car... or even get out of bed
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BrianP.

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on June 05, 2023, 07:08 AMEver listen to those pharmaceutical ads on TV? "Side affects include ... 'possible death.'".

:rofl:

Yeah. Used to laugh at them and all the possible side effects. Said maybe it was better just to deal with the disease.Then I was diagnosed with an auto immune disease. The risk ends up being worth it.
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JParis

I guess with all these people afraid of medicine, I pray they or a loved never have to make the choice of chemo or no chemo...

You want a terrible medicinal choice, I'm not sure there is a worse one to have to make.