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[neurosis]

Wrong doings?

He's never done anything remotely wrong, haven't you heard?

Damn.. I forgot to use the word "alleged".   

[YoDoug]

Good GOD! I don't hate Trump! any body who tries to give a objective opinion must hate trump, I guess.

Fine you don't hate Trump but then why do you seem to deny rational thought when it comes to trump's polling. He is killing any other R in polls. He got more votes in 2020 than any other R candidate ever. He Leads Biden in many polls. he still packs rallies with thousands of people. The idea that the dems want to face him goes against logic. Logically thinking they should want a Pence type that will not motivate voters and swing independents.

[rob@fain]

Damn.. I forgot to use the word "alleged". 

Do you believe the Steele Dossier was completely true, or was it manufactured by the DNC to get Hillary elected?
Is it possible the DNC could manufacture another scandal to keep Trump from becoming President? Was the Biden bribery manufactured or could there be some truth to it? If Trump were to win the presidency do you think he would pursue the Bidens?

[neurosis]

Do you believe the Steele Dossier was completely true, or was it manufactured by the DNC to get Hillary elected?
Is it possible the DNC could manufacture another scandal to keep Trump from becoming President? Was the Biden bribery manufactured or could there be some truth to it? If Trump were to win the presidency do you think he would pursue the Bidens?

Are you building a straw man to rationalize Trumps innocence in everything he's been accused of over the last several years? 

I get that he's been accused of some, possibly a lot of things that he didn't do, and that's definitely an issue. More in that it's going to make it more difficult to ever convince anyone who supports him that it's possible that he's actually broken the law than it is to convict him.

[RobertELee]

More in that it's going to make it more difficult to ever convince anyone who supports him that it's possible that he's actually broken the law than it is to convict him.

And we can turn that around and say, it's going to be more difficult for any of you TDS'rs to ever believe he did nothing wrong.

[mkd]

This forum is not good for my sanity. I need to take a break, I think.

Relax Francis, this is no different than arguing about Hulk Hogan Vs. Andre the giant. At the end of the day the sanctioning body is really in control.
 The arguing is just sport.
 Thing about politics is everyone is an expert in their own opinion...which quickly runs into reality of things we're not aware of.

[mkd]

Just acknowledging any of Trumps wrongdoings makes you a nevertrumper and a rino. Didn't you get the memo?  Now donate some money to Trumps legal defense and fall in line!   

Meanwhile ignoring the confirmed and obvious facts of the Biden crime family ..influence peddling, diary confirmed pedophilia with his daughter, creepy hair sniffing on camera not to mention that contemporaneous Larry King live call-in by the mother of Biden's rape victim.
 Biden said he was going to cure cancer during his 'campaign'.

On balance, I'd say the actual facts on the ground make Trump look like a saint. How am I wrong?

[JParis]

On balance, I'd say the actual facts on the ground make Trump look like a saint. How am I wrong?

and THAT is the problem....this isn't an either or situation...imo, they BOTH are problems...

[neurosis]

And we can turn that around and say, it's going to be more difficult for any of you TDS'rs to ever believe he did nothing wrong.

If he's proven innocent then good for him. I don't care for Trump but I don't think that anyone should be convicted of a crime they didn't commit.

[mkd]

and THAT is the problem....this isn't an either or situation...imo, they BOTH are problems...

IMHO, the only 'problem' that Trump has, is a large population has been brainwashed the he's Hilter-incarnate, where normal rules no longer apply.
This is the same country that just implemented lockdowns, mandated experimental medical treatments that in fact are proving more harmful than helpful, jailed church goers and continues to hold J6 political prisoners.
Banana republic machinations are just that. Not sure why you give it so much credence, but that you're right.

[neurosis]

C'mon! You know how the judiciary system works.
And doesn't work!

Are you saying that Trump would have an easier time getting off if he had murdered Stormy Daniels?   

If the condom didn't fit, you must acquit. 

[RobertELee]

I don't think that anyone should be convicted of a crime they didn't commit.

How about being ACCUSED of a crime they didn't commit?

[neurosis]

How about being ACCUSED of a crime they didn't commit?

We still talking about Trump?

Has he been cleared in any "crimes" he's been charged with?

[neurosis]

Has he been found guilty of any crimes he's been charged with?

Have there been any trials (not the shit show sway public opinion hearings) held yet? 

[Smit]

I don't care for Trump but I don't think that anyone should be convicted of a crime they didn't commit.

Does being convicted of a crime not committed in the right wing media count here?

I'm thinking not. Those are cheap and easy.