Senator Memendez indicted again

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beej

Quote from: Smit on September 28, 2023, 10:40 AMWow, damn, I guess that answers my question below....it's just a political demonstration to Republicans, even a relatively realistic Republican.

I think you are misunderstanding me. The emotions of the majority of protestors were real (in both the J6 and George Floyd protests) so in that sense they were not just political demonstrations. But the reality presented to them by media and politicians was a facade.

now listen close because I know this is already being misconstrued as I type this. The knee on George Floyd's neck was terrible and it was a real occurrence. What is not real is the perception that cops everywhere are out to get black men and kill them. If you recall, there was a white man killed in his hotel in Las Vegas right around the same time. He was unarmed. Told to knee and keep his hands up when his pants started to fall down, he reached for them and he was shot by the police. So an unarmed white man was killed by the police and there were no riots. the difference there was that black people have been fed a lie by the media that you consider not to be on the "fringe."

I believe that jan6th happened because the media that the protestors were listening to also did the same to them. People are being fed lies and they are believing them. I think that you are being fed lies and are believing them. I probably am too. But I'm learning more and more to sift through this stuff and think for myself. which is why I say so often I am feeling more and more politically homeless, even if my views would be considered conservative by most.

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gcode

Quote from: Smit on September 28, 2023, 09:11 AMThe other problem we have is being able to tell the difference between the people doing the protesting and the people doing the burning and looting.

If you can't tell the difference between people protesting and people burning and looting
you really do have a problem.
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Del.

Anyone watch debate last name night?

I thought the Governor of North Dakota did well. Tim Scott and Christie and Pence  sucked. Hayley was not too good either. Desantis did well I thought. Dana looked quite sultry. Giggity!!
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Smit

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Quote from: gcode on September 28, 2023, 10:59 AMIf you can't tell the difference between people protesting and people burning and looting
you really do have a problem.


You're a hoot gcode.

Can you tell the difference between peaceful protesting and a crazy MAGA retard hitting police officers with a fire extinguisher?

Let me guess... that's fake news right?  :)
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Smit

Quote from: beej on September 28, 2023, 10:58 AMI think you are misunderstanding me. The emotions of the majority of protestors were real (in both the J6 and George Floyd protests) so in that sense they were not just political demonstrations. But the reality presented to them by media and politicians was a facade.

now listen close because I know this is already being misconstrued as I type this. The knee on George Floyd's neck was terrible and it was a real occurrence. What is not real is the perception that cops everywhere are out to get black men and kill them. If you recall, there was a white man killed in his hotel in Las Vegas right around the same time. He was unarmed. Told to knee and keep his hands up when his pants started to fall down, he reached for them and he was shot by the police. So an unarmed white man was killed by the police and there were no riots. the difference there was that black people have been fed a lie by the media that you consider not to be on the "fringe."

I believe that jan6th happened because the media that the protestors were listening to also did the same to them. People are being fed lies and they are believing them. I think that you are being fed lies and are believing them. I probably am too. But I'm learning more and more to sift through this stuff and think for myself. which is why I say so often I am feeling more and more politically homeless, even if my views would be considered conservative by most.

Alright thanks for clarifying.

I will say the stats per capita of blacks and native Americans killed by cops shows the disparity clearly.

You can't ignore/dismiss that and understand why people are protesting.

beej

Quote from: Smit on September 28, 2023, 12:02 PMAlright thanks for clarifying.

I will say the stats per capita of blacks and native Americans killed by cops shows the disparity clearly.

You can't ignore/dismiss that and understand why people are protesting.

can you use the same logic to say that there is a disparity between the amount of men vs the amount of women killed by cops? or the amount of tattooed people vs non-tattooed people who are killed by cops are cops prejudiced against green?

If you look at those questions and say well clearly men tend to be more likely to commit a crime than women, or that tattooed people tend to commit more crimes than non-tattooed people, then why is it that skin color is singled out?

Also 80% of crime is intraracial according to FBI stats. white on white, black on black, etc. Could you explain why a disproportionate number of the victims of crime are black? These are questions that don't get asked on CBS, NBC or ABC.

Now I would agree that you could make a case, a strong case in fact, that the black on black crime stats has to do with impoverished living, but that would not put the impetus on cops who shot 389 white men vs 225 black men in 2022. I would say that puts the impetus on the local politicians in the areas where these impoverished people live.
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gcode

Quote from: Smit on September 28, 2023, 11:42 AMYou're a hoot gcode.

Can you tell the difference between peaceful protesting and a crazy MAGA retard hitting police officers with a fire extinguisher?

Let me guess... that's fake news right?  :)

of course I can

I can't also tell the difference between a peaceful protest
and BLM/Antifa burning a police station while some idiot
CNC repoter stands in from of the burning building telling me it's a "mostly" peaceful protest
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Smit

Your all butt hurt about this aren't you?

QuoteThe other problem we have is being able to tell the difference between the people doing the protesting and the people doing the burning and looting
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Del.

Speaking of George Floyd, if he would have simply got into back of police car he would be alive today.
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Tim Johnson

Quote from: Del. on September 28, 2023, 01:26 PMSpeaking of George Floyd, if he would have simply got into back of police car he would be alive today.
No he wouldn't. He ate all his drugs so he wouldn't get arrested for them also. The news service must not have known about that. :shrug:
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Incogneeto

Quote from: Smit on September 28, 2023, 10:17 AMDoes that mean you acknowledge that there was a combination of legitimate protesters and "burners/looters" for say, the George Floyd protests?

If so that makes you a rare Republican.

"I am Rare Rooster very Rare" (Maverick)

I think there is always a fair share of true protesters.

And a large sampling of Opportunist.

And some who love to stoke a fire.

I flew over the Florence and Normandie over pass in 92" on my Katana at about 150 mph. around 2 P.M. that Day.

I understand the difference between a protest , violent protest and Looting. Rodney King was beat like a Dog and

Yes George Floyd never should have happened.

Reginald Denny , Ate a Brick.

Your view point may not be the same.

But I can only go by My view point.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: Smit on September 28, 2023, 01:10 PMYour all butt hurt about this aren't you?



Yep!!!! Damn Dog Diggity !!! ;D

Smit

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Del.

The Turkey is a little too rough for me.

Incogneeto

Quote from: Smit on September 28, 2023, 02:07 PM

Years back I worked at a VFW bartending as a second job in Tejas.

Firebird comes screaming down the lane on a slow night Slams on the Brakes just in time.

walks in and says give me a Wild Turkey in a tall glass "Fill It"

I said Straight??

Yep.

I called my female Boss on the side , she said "Don't serve Him"

She was dating a short guy named "Dougie" violent Little Fucker.

Turns out it was his Dad an attorney in little Athens , Tejas

He had 11 DUI's !! No Shit.

12 last I heard and never lost his License..... He had to have Pics.

Hence anytime I see Wild Turkey!!! ;D