Say bye to your land Ukraine. Sucks to be you.

Started by Smit, February 12, 2025, 10:43 AM

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CNCAppsJames

Quote from: neurosis on February 13, 2025, 02:38 PMI've seen a lot of people flip flop on their support for Ukraine.  You've been consistent on this from the beginning. 
I think it is important to understand what led up to it. The majority do not, nor do they understand The USA's part in it. 
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Incogneeto

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on February 13, 2025, 02:36 PMShoulda posted this when Obama's CIA went bat shit crazy expanding NATO.

:coffee:

That was the original reason for Crimea.

Then "Weak" "doombass" Biden allowed the neighboring countries to apply to Nato. forcing Putin to move.
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Del.

Quote from: Incogneeto on February 13, 2025, 02:51 PMThat was the original reason for Crimea.

Then "Weak" "doombass" Biden allowed the neighboring countries to apply to Nato. forcing Putin to move.

Crimea was under Obama.
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Incogneeto

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Incogneeto

Quote from: Del. on February 13, 2025, 02:52 PMCrimea was under Obama.

Obama did nothing to stop Crimea and Biden did nothing to stop Ukraine.
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SuperHoneyBadger

Quote from: Incogneeto on February 13, 2025, 02:54 PMYes it was and Biden continued it.

Or Obama 2.0

Truths:
Trump won 3 elections.
Obama managed 3 terms.
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mkd

Putin invading was the only logical outcome of Obama administration meddling and destabilizing and sponsoring gain of function bioweapons labs.
 Had Putin not done it, we might be in another man made pandemic as punishment for electing the great mind melter and orange menace.
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beej

Gallup poll on what Ukrainians think about the war

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx

QuoteA fair share of Ukrainians who favor negotiating a quick end to the war believe Ukraine should be open to ceding some territory in exchange for peace. More than half of this group (52%) agrees that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as part of a peace deal to end the war, while 38% disagree and another 10% don't know. Gallup did not ask more details about the level of territorial concessions that people would be open to.

70% prefer the EU or UK to lead in negotiations, vs 50% or a little less prefer the US.

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RobertELee

Quote from: beej on February 14, 2025, 07:50 AM70% prefer the EU or UK to lead in negotiations, vs 50% or a little less prefer the US.


Then let them. But at this point Trump is the only one who stepped to the table.
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beej

Quote from: RobertELee on February 14, 2025, 08:04 AMThen let them. But at this point Trump is the only one who stepped to the table.
When you have 70% saying the EU and 50% saying the US, (120%) It tells me that the majority is saying "Please, somebody do something!"
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neurosis

So where are we at on this?

Ukraine started the war? Ukraine shouldn't have fought back?  :D
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Smit

Or Ukraine should have negotiated and gave Putin what he wanted before Russia attacked. :rolleyes:

mkd

#87
Guessing the oligarchs won't be cashing big checks soon.
 All the super rich on the ski slope of the swiss Alps are Ukrainian war profiteers.
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Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on February 20, 2025, 07:33 AMUkraine started the war?
Ukraine is a puppet.
The war is what the Biden admin wanted. Plain and simple.

Zelenski admitted that he doesn't know where half of the money is that was given to "Ukraine".

Well Z...that's because the other half went into the pockets of those that profit from this war.
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