Democrats are in real trouble

[beej]

Democrats are in real trouble if this is the future of the Democratic party

https://www.salon.com/2025/04/22/david-hogg-puts-incumbent-democrats-on-notice-we-have-to-show-how-our-party-is-going-to-fight-back/

What are we doing to make sure that Americans do not have to make impossible decisions in particular? What I mean by that my own life is that after the DNC in this [past] summer, the actual convention, I had to come back home to take care of my father, who was on his deathbed, unfortunately, because of being the final stage of Parkinson's Disease.

My family was able to financially survive this illness because of the Social Security system that Democrats fought to create, thankfully. However, the cost of at-home care in the final weeks of his life was going to be $19,000 a month for 12 hours of care a day, and that is despite him being a veteran and a medically retired FBI agent. The only reason why my family didn't go bankrupt is because my father did not live long enough for that to happen. That is an impossible decision that millions of Americans are having to make right now, that Republicans are not offering a solution to that we can and we should.

If you do the math, 12 hours a day for a month, they were paying a company $52 an hour for in home health care and complaining about that. Yet, they want to raise minimum wage.

At the same time, we've seen the things that we can't import, like college education, like housing, like eldercare, childcare, healthcare, insurance, all of those things skyrocket in price and it is crushing the American people. We have to show how our party is going to fight back against that so that the only determinant of whether or not you're able to own a home in the future was how hard you were willing to work, and how good your ideas are, not whether or not there's a corporation that is price fixing or buying up 10s tens of thousands of single family homes to try to squeeze you out of the market, or simply that there is not enough housing available.

those things all cost the most, in Democratic strongholds. And they are due to a lot of Democratic principles. Regulation, government subsidies in education, etc. How could anyone think that Republicans have made education more expensive?

The other thing that we're trying to do here: We believe that the reason why we've lost both shares with basically every demographic except the elderly and well educated, is because a lot of people feel like the American dream is increasingly evaporating before their eyes, and the message that they're hearing is, "Well, we need to defend democracy" over and over again.

We live in a democratic society that is the same one that empowers special interests, that has resulted in people this generation going through school shootings, that has resulted in this generation facing the brunt of climate change, the student debt crisis, the housing crisis and so much more, where the basic, foundational building blocks of the American dream are so much harder for young people to achieve now than they a generation prior.

the things that he is pushing for are in conflict here. We can try to combat Climate Change, but it is going to make things more expensive, not less. Food, housing and energy will all be more expensive. That drives the cost of everything other thing up.

More than anything, what I would say is that it is about our candidates. There are a few things that they have to be. Obviously, they have to be good on guns, and they also need to not take corporate money. Part of the reason we support them so heavily is that we want to show the next generation, to people of all ages, that there are Democrats out there who don't take corporate money — that are there to represent you and your interests, and that is their sole job, right? They're not here to represent any special interest.

His special interest in gun control laws. His candidates that are going to try and primary other democrats, have to be beholden to his special interest in order to prove that they are not beholden to special interests.

[Jeff]

The same David Hogg who is a paid actor/paid victim/paid "witness" in multiple cities?
lol
They might as well try to have Harry Sisson be the head of the DNC, they pay him too!

[Del.]

AOC is now the face of the Democratic Party.

[CNCAppsJames]

AOC is now the face of the Democratic Party.

This is going to be fun to watch.




I mean if the Republic is going to burn, it should at the very least be entertaining.

[Del.]

This is going to be fun to watch.




I mean if the Republic is going to burn, it should at the very least be entertaining.
She's drawing big crowds!

[Jeff]

AOC is now the face of the Democratic Party.

She's the face of something alright....

[beej]

just to compare 2 states side by side:

Illinois is spending 16,000 per student on education
Missouri is spending 6,000 per student on education

Illinois reading scores are 2 points better than Missouri's scores at the 4th grade level which many consider to be the critical grade level for which a kid will succeed down the road.

Illinois is raising taxes by 1.1 billion this year but will still be running a deficit, while Missouri is cutting taxes this year and will still be in the black.

missouri's report card
https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2024/pdf/2024220MO4.pdf

illinois report card
https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2024/pdf/2024220IL4.pdf

[beej]

average electric rates
Missouri 11.5c per kWh
Illinois 15.8c per kWh

average gas prices today
Missouri $2.83 per gallon
Illinois $3.71 per gallon

college education cost
Missouri $259 lower than national average
Illinois $3589 higher than national averaage

[Smit]

Is Illinois a "liberal" state?

[beej]

Is Illinois a "liberal" state?

they have a veto proof majority of Democrats in both the house and the senate, so I would say they are.

[Smit]

they have a veto proof majority of Democrats in both the house and the senate, so I would say they are.

Alright.

I wouldn't have thought so outside of Chicago but that sounds like it is.

[beej]

Alright.

I wouldn't have thought so outside of Chicago but that sounds like it is.

they have a lot of red rural counties, but with those democratic majorities, policy is set by the democratic party.

[Jeff]

"Throughout 2024, Democrats and the media said that Democracy was literally on the ballot, literally, and that's why you have to vote against Donald Trump in favor of the People Who Controlled Joe Biden (later Kamala Harris).
The American people still voted for Donald Trump. Now, you have Democrat Party leader David Hogg saying democracy is the problem."

[beej]

https://capitolnewsillinois.com/news/pritzker-proposes-over-2b-in-spending-growth-backed-by-tax-increases-for-corporations-sportsbooks/

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6371439927112
Gov Pritzker calls tariffs a tax on corporations that will be passed on to working families

just comparing illinois to missouri because the 2 states are side by side with vastly different political leadership. And I can't help but wonder how Mr Hogg would respond to these comparisons.

[SuperHoneyBadger]

The American people still voted for Donald Trump. Now, you have Democrat Party leader David Hogg saying democracy is the problem.

It's the wrong kind of democracy that is the problem, clearly. They want a return to common sense, pedophilic, high taxin', settled science democracy!