Trumps "Big Beautiful Bill"

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Quote from: neurosis on May 22, 2025, 08:05 AMNo, it's very right leaning if you're not also very right leaning.

You think the current SCOTUS isn't a right leaning SCOTUS?

They have ruled against Trump several times I believe.
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Quote from: neurosis on May 22, 2025, 12:33 PMProject 2025 is a comprehensive policy blueprint developed primarily by the Heritage Foundation and other conservative organizations to guide a potential second Trump administration in rapidly reshaping the federal government and executive branch. The "Swift Action" component of Project 2025 refers to its detailed, step-by-step plan for immediate implementation of major policy changes within the first 180 days of a new administration.

Key Elements of Project 2025's Plan for Swift Action
1. Immediate Executive Orders and Agency Directives

The plan calls for a flurry of executive orders and directives on Day One to roll back previous administration policies and implement new priorities, particularly on immigration, energy, and federal workforce management.

Examples include ending "weaponization" of the Justice Department, freezing federal hiring except for loyalists, and pausing or rescinding funds from the Inflation Reduction Act and infrastructure law.

2. Restructuring the Federal Workforce

Project 2025 advocates reclassifying federal employees to make it easier to remove those deemed unsupportive of the administration's agenda, and installing loyalists in key senior positions.

This includes abolishing diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) offices across agencies, especially in the Department of Defense and Homeland Security.

3. Aggressive Immigration Actions

The plan proposes mass deportations, ending birthright citizenship, dismantling the asylum system, and mandating cooperation between federal, state, and local law enforcement on immigration enforcement.

Executive orders have already reflected these priorities, such as authorizing state and local law enforcement to participate in immigration actions and detaining migrants to the maximum extent allowed by law.

4. Energy and Environmental Rollbacks

Project 2025 calls for rapid expansion of domestic energy production, including expedited permitting for mineral and energy projects, and withdrawal from international climate agreements like the Paris Accord.

The plan includes revoking Biden-era climate and environmental executive orders and eliminating efficiency requirements for appliances to increase consumer choice.

5. Centralized Control and Rapid Policy Implementation

The blueprint emphasizes consolidating procurement and administrative functions under central agencies (like the GSA) and requiring immediate policy reviews and revisions across the executive branch.

It also outlines the development of a National Resilience Strategy and a National Risk Register within the first year.





That's why we voted for him.  :thumbsup:
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Quote from: YoDoug on May 22, 2025, 02:32 PMThat's why we voted for him.  :thumbsup:

I remember when Trump tried so hard to distance himself from Project 2025 and his supporters told anyone who said that this was going to be his agenda, that they were just parroting liberal talking points.

I think that James was the only one to look at some of the text (I posted it) and said that he wanted all of it to happen.  :lol:  Not all of it was necessarily bad.

There are definitely some bad parts and the "sweeping" part I feel didn't go the way that they had hoped and that's why we're having this conversation right now.
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Smit

Quote from: neurosis on May 22, 2025, 02:49 PMI remember when Trump tried so hard to distance himself from Project 2025 and his supporters told anyone who said that this was going to be his agenda, that they were just parroting liberal talking points.

I think Trump actually denied knowing what it was, which I believed. Still do.

But he's doing it anyway. :rolleyes:

neurosis

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Once in a while I do have to remind myself what you voted for.  :lol:


Official Pushed to Rewrite Intelligence So It Could Not Be 'Used Against' Trump

The link (yea yea)

https://archive.ph/cIyXU



And you wonder why they're trying to block FOIA requests  :rolleyes:


"New emails document how a top aide to Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, ordered analysts to edit an assessment with the hope of insulating President Trump and Ms. Gabbard from being attacked for the administration's claim that Venezuela's government controls a criminal gang.
"We need to do some rewriting" and more analytic work "so this document is not used against the DNI or POTUS," Joe Kent, the chief of staff to Ms. Gabbard, wrote in an email to a group of intelligence officials on April 3, using shorthand for Ms. Gabbard's position and for the president of the United States."

https://www.cato.org/blog/50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law

50+ Venezuelans Imprisoned in El Salvador Came to US Legally, Never Violated Immigration Law

To hell with due process!
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neurosis

Quote from: Smit on May 22, 2025, 03:07 PMI think Trump actually denied knowing what it was, which I believed. Still do.

But he's doing it anyway. :rolleyes:

It's hard to deny when all of his main advisors and characters in his cabinet are architects of the project. :shrug: And they're following it almost letter for letter.  Some of the EO's contain text that matches what's written in the project.
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mkd

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Quote from: YoDoug on May 22, 2025, 09:33 AMI never said I agree. I said it was an over reaction. I also said I think the judiciary is out of control. I never proposed a solution, just that I see why they are trying to do away with repercussions of not following judicial orders.

Technically there is a constitutional process to impeach and remove sitting federal judges. However it requires the same trials as impeaching a president so it would never be reasonable to think the house and senate could bring impeachment against dozens of judges over stepping their roles. Because of this they rule with no fear of reprimand.

The process for removing judges in bad behavior needs to be established and streamlined.
Wrecking the power of the court in general is a shite idea. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is no good solution

mkd

Quote from: neurosis on May 22, 2025, 03:11 PMIt's hard to deny when all of his main advisors and characters in his cabinet are architects of the project. :shrug: And they're following it almost letter for letter.  Some of the EO's contain text that matches what's written in the project.
It's beautiful 😍 isn't it!?!
 Appointing all the people wronged by the deep state to Lord over the deep state.
 I like this almost as much as not having killary Clinton's supreme court picks mangling law like Notorious RGB.

neurosis

Quote from: mkd on May 22, 2025, 06:07 PMThe process for removing judges in bad behavior needs to be established and streamlined. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is no good solution

Does that include SCJ's?

Quote from: mkd on May 22, 2025, 06:10 PMAppointing all the people wronged by the deep state to Lord over the deep state.

According to Bonjino, you've been chasing dreams.  :lol:


And the deficit is still going to suck.
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ATM... a markup of the reconciliation bill, reduces the tax on suppressors from $200 to $0.

One step closer to removing a non-firearm from the NFA.

Maybe in my lifetime I'll be able to roll down to the LGS and buy one, just like I can buy a firearm. In and out in 20min.

Imagine charging people $200 to vote.

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Quote from: Del. on May 22, 2025, 02:09 PMThey have ruled against Trump several times I believe.

One has nothing to do with the other. A court or judge can be right leaning and still enforce the constitution and rule of law.

Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on May 22, 2025, 09:01 PMATM... a markup of the reconciliation bill, reduces the tax on suppressors from $200 to $0.

One step closer to removing a non-firearm from the NFA.

Maybe in my lifetime I'll be able to roll down to the LGS and buy one, just like I can buy a firearm. In and out in 20min.

Imagine charging people $200 to vote.

:coffee:

Oh STFU you whiner. Despite your ignorant use of false equivalencies, you are not being oppressed and your rights are not being violated.
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neurosis

I just read that an annual registration fees of $250 for electric vehicles and $100 for hybrid vehicles is in this bill. They're basically just punishing hybrid and electric vehicle owners.  :lol: 

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