Did Jordan Peterson just wreck his career?

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Quote from: mowens on May 30, 2025, 07:39 AMIt becomes a problem when it starts making other people sick.
"It looks like do the right thing, has made a HUGE amount of people sick".... :shrug:
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Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 02:20 AMI see it all the time on social media, and some of the advice I've seen given is bad advice.

This is jut my opinion, but putting the onus on the listener to think critically rather than controlling speech and/or opinions is a much better method
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Smit

Quote from: beej on May 30, 2025, 08:01 AMThis is jut my opinion, but putting the onus on the listener to think critically rather than controlling speech and/or opinions is a much better method

In theory, sure. But how is that working out for us? :headscratch:

neurosis

Quote from: beej on May 30, 2025, 08:01 AMThis is jut my opinion, but putting the onus on the listener to think critically rather than controlling speech and/or opinions is a much better method


I'm not talking about the Joe Rogans etc, Although my opinion on their role in spreading misinformation wouldn't be popular in here.  :D

I'm more talking about friends that I see on social media trying to convince people what to do with their healthcare. It could be something as simple as ridiculing them for vaccinations to telling them they should be doing the ivermectin parasite cleanse using horse paste. 
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beej

Quote from: Smit on May 30, 2025, 08:06 AMIn theory, sure. But how is that working out for us? :headscratch:

the US became the premier super power of the world with that policy. the fact that we refer to people who are wrong as snake oil salesman suggests that we have over come the problem in the past and will continue to do so. At the same time, we have some great examples of nations who control the flow of information, and I am glad that I wasn't born into one of those countries.
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Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 08:09 AMI'm not talking about the Joe Rogans etc, Although my opinion on their role in spreading misinformation wouldn't be popular in here.  :D

I dunno....this one looks good :lol:
https://x.com/i/status/1927502927289106631
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Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 08:09 AMI'm more talking about friends that I see on social media trying to convince people what to do with their healthcare. It could be something as simple as ridiculing them for vaccinations to telling them they should be doing the ivermectin parasite cleanse using horse paste.

is ridiculed so big of a deal?
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neurosis

Quote from: beej on May 30, 2025, 08:26 AMis ridiculed so big of a deal?

It depends. I wouldn't make medical decisions based on someone ridiculing me, but people are funny.
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Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 02:20 AMMaybe? Only one is making economic decisions for the Country right now. Most economist think he's making poor decisions, including one of your favorites.

Sure. People are free to do what they want. It's when they start giving other people advice that it can become a problem. As I've pointed out on the forum in the past. I see it all the time on social media, and some of the advice I've seen given is bad advice.

In same way that when he tells blatent whoppers, his supporters just ignore it.


Oh contraire mon fraire... her position in congress, the bills she proposes, the bills she helps pass have FAR MORE long reaching consequences and implications than that of a POTUS. POTUS serves a maximum of two terms - except Obama many think he got three - I am leaning towards that - and FDR. She can spend the rest of her natural born life in congress, and her corpse can be carried out of the chamber if her constituents desire that. And unless she does something really stupid, or gets bored with it, she will do exactly that. A POTUS' governance by EO is subject to the whims of the next administration as we saw last administration and this administration - an EO tit for tat if you will. Not great, and personally I'm sick of most of it.

Personally, I don;t think Trump is any sort of genius, he's dome some things right, he's done some things wrong, he's done some good, and he's done some bad. The thing with him though, you at least know he's doign what he wants. Sometimes it's within the correct framework, sometimes not, and when it's not, his administration gets hauled into court to explain themselves. It's a feature not a bug. With the last administration, we can speculate all day long as to who was really pulling the strings of the incontinent dementia addled octogenarian but none of us truly knows. THAT is a FAR more egregious travesty IMHO. Feel free to disagree.

Advice is just that. Some is good. Some is bad. The ONLY difference about today's advice is it can be more far reaching. It use to be advice was passed along at the local tavern, eating establishment or restaurant. Now consumption is more wide spread. Not great, but also not much different than the advice of the past. Bad advice will propogate for as long as the world exists. People have to be discerning. That's all there is to it.
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