Big Balls Mugging Triggers DC Crackdown!

Started by neurosis, August 12, 2025, 02:12 AM

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neurosis

I'm posing this one because I thought the headline was hilarious.  :lol:

I didn't know that it was "Big Balls" Edward Coristine that was mugged.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/big-balls-mugging-triggers-dc-crackdown

I do think that this is an interesting topic (justification for federalized policing).
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Had Nancy not given stand down orders to capital police swamp and refused Trump's national guard request we wouldn't have gotten TWO FULL SEASONS of J6 soap opera.
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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on August 12, 2025, 02:12 AMI do think that this is an interesting topic (justification for federalized policing).

No justification needed. DC is not a state, it is federal territory. The management of DC falls under congress per the constitution.
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neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on August 12, 2025, 05:21 AMNo justification needed. DC is not a state, it is federal territory. The management of DC falls under congress per the constitution.

Is congress going to be involved? Would they have enough votes to pass the joint resolution?

I've read that Trump can Federalize policing in DC for 30 days under "conditions of an emergency nature". Is this "conditions of an emergency nature"?
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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on August 12, 2025, 05:36 AMIs congress going to be involved? Would they have enough votes to pass the joint resolution?

I've read that Trump can Federalize policing in DC for 30 days under "conditions of an emergency nature". Is this "conditions of an emergency nature"?


I doubt congress would do anything meaningful. IMO, congress is permanently dysfunctional because of hyper-partisan extremist, corruption, and uni-party allegiance.

I guess what is an emergency is up to Trump or who ever is president. There is a lot of power in the oval office that is at the presidents discretion. Elections have consequences.
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gcode

DC pols are howling be because Trump... and because the crime rates are down 30% from 2024
What nobody it saying is a DC police official was recently relieved of duty for falsifying crime stats.
Rank and file cops report that whenever there is a serious crime, high ranking police officials show up
to make sure the crime report is reclassified to something less serious.
 
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neurosis

#7
Quote from: YoDoug on August 12, 2025, 05:56 AMElections have consequences.

Apparently the willingness to turn a blind eye to an expansion of executive power is one of those consequences? What happened to true conservatives?

Quote from: gcode on August 12, 2025, 05:59 AMDC pols are howling be because Trump... and because the crime rates are down 30% from 2024
What nobody it saying is a DC police official was recently relieved of duty for falsifying crime stats.
Rank and file cops report that whenever there is a serious crime, high ranking police officials show up
to make sure the crime report is reclassified to something less serious.

I haven't heard that *yet*.

I don't live in DC so have no stake in this game, but one thing that is disturbing, is the rise in minors committing crimes and the apparent lack of willingness to punish them for it. I see the same thing here. I can see not wanting to ruin a dumb punk kids life over a shoplifting charge, but armed robbery or carjacking, I start to lose my sympathy.



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Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on August 12, 2025, 06:06 AMbut one thing that is disturbing, is the rise in minors committing crimes and the apparent lack of willingness to punish them for it. I see the same thing here. I can see not wanting to ruin s dumb punk kids life over a shoplifting charge, but armed robbery or carjacking, I start to lose my sympathy.

It stems from the leftist "cashless bond/bail" that they've been handing out like candy for just about ANY crime.
There is no deterrent when there is no punishment and they're back on the streets in a couple of hours.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... the left wants chaos. That is blatantly obvious over the last few years.
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neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on August 12, 2025, 06:19 AMIt stems from the leftist "cashless bond/bail" that they've been handing out like candy for just about ANY crime.

I've seen some of the arguments for cashless bail, and I get what they're saying. The system is set up to favor the rich.

There was a story that ran in Seattle back in 2019. There was a spike in crime downtown. One guy was responsible for a good number of those crimes. They kept letting him out, only to go on to commit another crime that same day. He had over 40 misdemeanor cases in Seattle, and something like 100 criminal cases State wide. It was a small group of repeat offenders responsible for the spike.

I haven't read any statistics, but cashless bail (some of these were lowered bail), appeared to be a huge flop.     
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beej

Quote from: neurosis on August 12, 2025, 06:41 AMI've seen some of the arguments for cashless bail, and I get what they're saying. The system is set up to favor the rich.

I don't see how you can set up a system where the rich people don't reap some benefit, whether we like that or not. But you have to have a system that protects society. And more often than not, when you let a person prone to crime out on bail, it will be other people of a similar economic class that will become victims.
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gcode

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Quote from: neurosis on August 12, 2025, 06:06 AMI haven't heard that *yet*.

DC Police commander suspended

QuoteA D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district.

The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment opportunity complaint against an assistant chief and the police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data, according to three law enforcement sources familiar with the complaint.

The union claims police supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it appear violent crime has fallen considerably compared to last year.

Pulliam — the former commander of the 3rd District that patrols Adams Morgan and Columbia Heights — was placed on leave with pay and told he was under investigation for questionable changes to crime data, five law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation told News4.

Quote"When our members respond to the scene of a felony offense where there is a victim reporting that a felony occurred, inevitably there will be a lieutenant or a captain that will show up on that scene and direct those members to take a report for a lesser offense," Fraternal Order of Police Chairman Gregg Pemberton said. "So, instead of taking a report for a shooting or a stabbing or a carjacking, they will order that officer to take a report for a theft or an injured person to the hospital or a felony assault, which is not the same type of classification."

The police department's command staff is focusing on two categories in order to get the numbers to fall, Pemberton said: armed with a dangerous weapon and injured person to the hospital.

"When management officials are directing officers to take reports for felony assault, or if they're going back into police databases and changing offenses to felony assault, felony assault is not a category of crime that's listed on the department's daily crime stats," Pemberton said. "It's also not something that's a requirement of the FBI's uniform crime reporting program. So, by changing criminal offenses from, for example, ADW bat or ADW gun to felony assault, that would avoid both the MPD and the FBI from reporting that as a part one or a felony offense."

The union has been gathering evidence for some time now by looking at reports and talking with officers all over the city, Pemberton said.

"What we've heard through our members and through members of management that were willing to talk with the union is that this is a directive from the command staff, is that they wanna make sure that these classifications of these reports are adjusted over time to make sure that the overall crime stats stay down," Pemberton said. "And this is deliberately done."

As of last Monday when News4 spoke with Pemberton, D.C. crime data shows violent crime was down 28%. Thursday, the department's website said violent crime is down 25% when compared to the same time last year, and overall crime is down 8%.

Jeff

Quote from: gcode on August 13, 2025, 03:10 AM"When our members respond to the scene of a felony offense where there is a victim reporting that a felony occurred, inevitably there will be a lieutenant or a captain that will show up on that scene and direct those members to take a report for a lesser offense," Fraternal Order of Police Chairman Gregg Pemberton said

WTF?
These people need to lose their jobs immediately.
That's fucked up.

Jeff

And the police chief of DC doesn't know what "chain of command" is.
CLEARLY that moron is a DEI hire, you can tell just by looking at it.




neurosis

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Quote from: gcode on August 13, 2025, 03:10 AMDC Police commander suspended

I read something about that yesterday after you posted.

My question at that point would be, since this is one of seven police districts. Are the other districts also accused of manipulating data? If not, do they show crime rates rising, or falling?
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