War in Venezuela

[neurosis]

True.. Obama even droned an American citizen and his 16 year old son.. we never heard a peep from the peanut gallery

Isn't it ironic that a lot of the people who cried about Obama blowing up terrorists or people aiding them, have now become the peanut gallery?

[beej]

Isn't it ironic that a lot of the people who cried about Obama blowing up terrorists or people aiding them, have now become the peanut gallery?

it is indeed. Relative moralism at it's finest. Until the country gets back to the belief that there is an objective moralism we will just keep having this debate one after another, thread after thread.

[ghuns]

In the sprit of bi-partisanship lemme just say, killing terrorist is good. Also, killing drug traffickers is good. No matter what political party is giving the orders.

[gcode]

Isn't it ironic that a lot of the people who cried about Obama blowing up terrorists or people aiding them, have now become the peanut gallery?

I had no problem with Obama droning the terrorists he droned, even if they did carry American citizenship papers.
I felt bad about the 16 year old kid who got killed, but if he was hanging with his dad in the terrorist camps
in Yemen, he was probably a terrorist in training ... so good ridance.

[mowens]

Shirley, nobody really thinks these strikes are about drug interdictions, do they?

[neurosis]

I had no problem with Obama droning the terrorists he droned, even if they did carry American citizenship papers.
I felt bad about the 16 year old kid who got killed, but if he was hanging with his dad in the terrorist camps
in Yemen, he was probably a terrorist in training ... so good ridance.

I was more on the side of thinking that Obama was a war criminal and was critical of the lack of transparency. I have the same opinion of what's going on now.

If they showed some proof that the people being blown up were actual "narco-terrorists" and not just villagers trying to make a few extra bucks so they can feed their families, I would probably be less sympathetic. Or that the drugs were actually heading to the US.  It would also make some difference if Trump wasn't pardoning one guy who was responsible for 400 tons of cocaine flooding toward the US while pretending that he's upset with Venezuela.

[neurosis]

Shirley, nobody really thinks these strikes are about drug interdictions, do they?

My tin-foil hat opinion is that they are fishing for a reaction from Venezuela so they can start a war. That would accomplish a few things for Trump.

[mowens]

It reminds me of Russia using the excuse of liberating Ukraine from the Nazis to invade Ukraine.

[ghuns]

...If they showed some proof...

Uh... Sorry. That's classified.

[jstell]

But.... of course, it depends upon the definition of terrorist....
https://news.sky.com/story/us-plans-to-start-checking-all-tourists-social-media-13481642

What a bunch of stupid.  I wouldn't come here either if I wasn't already here.

[neurosis]

They would love the last 5 years of my social media. 

[jstell]

I would.
And love it.

Well, better start scrubbing your social media I guess.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

I would.
And love it.

Well, better start scrubbing your social media I guess.

Hardly. I think Frenchie is auditioning for US citizenship with his social media hard-on for all things Trump.

[MIL-TFP-41]

But.... of course, it depends upon the definition of terrorist....
https://news.sky.com/story/us-plans-to-start-checking-all-tourists-social-media-13481642

Wow. Maybe I ought to stop telling everyone in the world, including every politician possible, to go fuck themselves. Then with 25+ years of history of me doing that very thing...too late.

[neurosis]

U.S. seizes oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela: Report

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/10/us-venezuela-oil-tanker-seize.html

https://archive.ph/r9kYb

"US forces have intercepted and seized a sanctioned oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, according to people familiar with the matter, a move that marks a serious escalation of tensions between the two countries.
The White House didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. State oil company Petroleos de Venezuela SA and Venezuela's oil and information ministries didn't immediately reply to requests for comment.
The seizure may make it much harder for Venezuela to export its oil, as other shippers are now likely to be more reluctant to load its cargoes. Most Venezuelan oil goes to China, usually through intermediaries, at steep discounts owing to sanctions risk."