ICE agent fatally shoots woman

[pmartin]

And why was he on his cell phone in a supposedly life and death situation?

[ghuns]

Her intent is the most important part.

Not legally.

How can the officer, in a split second, discern her intent?

He's in front of the car. She slams it from reverse to drive and guns it.

A reasonable person, in that situation, is justified to believe he is danger of great bodily injury or death.

[Newbeeee™]

Whatever happened to good 'ol shooting the tyres out?

[neurosis]

Not that this admin is full of liars? 

from r/law

[CNCAppsJames]

Oh... only 47%... That's SO much better.

EVERY. SINGLE. illegal alien is a criminal. 100% of them without exception. That is the fact nobody wants to come to terms with.

[neurosis]

Oh... only 47%... That's SO much better.

EVERY. SINGLE. illegal alien is a criminal. 100% of them without exception. That is the fact nobody wants to come to terms with.

It proves that either she doesn't know what she's talking about, or she's just lying about the numbers.

[CNCAppsJames]

It proves that either she doesn't know what she's talking about, or she's just lying about the numbers.

Or, she's looking at the numbers one way and he is looking at it another. Remember, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics.  It's entirely possible they are both right, or more likely both wrong.

 

[neurosis]

Or, she's looking at the numbers one way and he is looking at it another. Remember, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics.  It's entirely possible they are both right, or more likely both wrong.

The numbers came from her own agency. Maybe she's just incompetent?

[CNCAppsJames]

The numbers came from her own agency. Maybe she's just incompetent?

Well, as with most people in government and most  people in the political realm, Hanlon's Razor IS alive and well...

#ChangeMyMind

 

[neurosis]

Well, as with most people in government and most  people in the political realm, Hanlon's Razor IS alive and well...

#ChangeMyMind

So she's just stupid?

[beej]

One of the most obvious reasons both numbers can be correct is "what is a criminal?

While one might say any one that has committed a crime is a criminal, another might say only someone convicted of a crime is a criminal. As in, maybe 70% have been charged but only 47% have, so far, been convicted.

[Rstewart]

Whatever happened to good 'ol shooting the tyres out?

You fuckin speel'd TIRES Wrong!!!!!

[neurosis]

I guess we're going to find out how well defending themselves against what they consider to be a tyrannical government works out for them?

[CNCAppsJames]

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[jstell]

You fuckin speel'd TIRES Wrong!!!!!

Just wait till he asks you to get the spare out of the boot!