Still Can't Get Past Georgia 2020

[jstell]

Here we have illegal federal over-reach.  And just to make sure everybody knows they know it, personal phone call between the president and the FBI raiders of state elections office.

the call
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dni-director-arranged-fbi-agents-searched-georgia-election/story?id=129794862

the backlash begins

"Let's be clear: It is inappropriate for a sitting president to personally involve himself in a criminal investigation tied to an election he lost," Warner told reporters on Capitol Hill.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/03/gabbard-trump-georgia-election-fbi-warner.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/fulton-county-to-sue-after-fbi-seizes-2020-election-ballots/

[YoDoug]

Illegal or inappropriate? Those are two different things. The president oversees the executive branch which includes the DOJ. He can steer what the DOJ investigates. While it may be inappropriate to be involved with an election case regarding an election he lost. Federal election law still trumps state election law and if there is a reason to believe a state violated federal election law, then it is fully in the jurisdiction of the DOJ to investigate.

[jstell]

https://www.votebeat.org/2026/01/29/election-officials-respond-fbi-search-georgia-elections-office/

I am sure there is bias here.  Interesting that the search warrant was just "get everything" and not allegations or suspicions of specific violations of law.  And also there is a statute of limitations that expired last year.  So, yeah, I'm sticking with illegal over-reach.

[Smit]

The problem is, and we're seeing it frequently, is the DOJ is being steered to investigations when there is no reason to believe an investigation is needed.

The President has no business steering the DOJ, the FBI, or the fed.

Those institutions need to be independent to be effective.

[jstell]

DOJ is being steered to investigations when there is no reason to believe an investigation is needed.

The President has no business steering the DOJ, the FBI, or the fed.

Those institutions need to be independent to be effective trusted by more than half the population.

The president can certainly prioritize the agenda for DOJ, FBI, and the other three-letter agencies, but the part that's off the rails is the lack of independence.  Orange idiot just keeps firing people until he gets one that won't talk back.  And that's where the absurdity shows thru. 

I wonder how many judges they had to shop to get a warrant for this fishing expedition on a matter that's been settled and should have been buried five years ago.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

This is all setting the stage for 2028. Dipshits who believe that elecions get stolen from Trump need to have the message repeated, lest it fade from their tiny little minds.

[YoDoug]

https://www.votebeat.org/2026/01/29/election-officials-respond-fbi-search-georgia-elections-office/

I am sure there is bias here.  Interesting that the search warrant was just "get everything" and not allegations or suspicions of specific violations of law.  And also there is a statute of limitations that expired last year.  So, yeah, I'm sticking with illegal over-reach.

Kind of like "Get everything warrant" Bidens DOJ cooked up when they raided Mar-a-lago?

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Kind of like "Get everything warrant" Bidens DOJ cooked up when they raided Mar-a-lago?

Way to stay with us here, Dougie.

Did you know there's a button right on the main OT page where you can start a new topic?

[jstell]

Kind of like "Get everything warrant" Bidens DOJ cooked up when they raided Mar-a-lago?

Not at all.  There was specific knowledge of specific crime, and a warrant was issued to retrieve documents that had already been subpoenaed, and the orange idiot and team were indicted for retaining classified documents, obstruction, false statements and destruction of evidence, and possibly contempt of court before that, but that remains sealed.
https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf

[Rstewart]

The President has no business steering the DOJ, the FBI, or the fed.

And you called me dumb?  Maybe you need a refresher Paw Paw

[jstell]

if there is a reason to believe a state violated federal election law

That's the big IF.
They're supposed to have some actual suspicion of such a thing in order to get a warrant.  And they don't.  Unless their "evidence" is presidential "truth" media posts.

[Here's Johnny!]

The President has no business steering the DOJ, the FBI, or the fed

Like Obama and Russia gate? Like Trump getting indicted only after announcing he was running in 2024?

I agree they should be independent but the Dimocrats started this and now it is part politics unfortunately.

[Smit]

Like Obama and Russia gate? Like Trump getting indicted only after announcing he was running in 2024?

I agree they should be independent but the Dimocrats started this and now it is part politics unfortunately.

Ah, it's the Dems fault. I should have known. 

[Here's Johnny!]

Ah, it's the Dems fault. I should have known.

If I am wrong in saying it started with them please tell me where it started??? Obama getting the FBI to investigate a political opponent was the first documented time that I know of.

[Smit]

If I am wrong in saying it started with them please tell me where it started??? Obama getting the FBI to investigate a political opponent was the first documented time that I know of.

I think you're doing a lot of "interpreting" to find what you want to believe when you say that. As far as Obama ordering the FBI to investigate Russian interference, I doubt you're going to find much to support that view that didn't come from the Trummp administration.

did obama order the fbi to investigate trump and russia?

AI:
No, there is no evidence that President Obama ordered the FBI to investigate Trump and Russia for political reasons. The investigation, known as Crossfire Hurricane, was initiated based on concerns about Russian interference in the 2016 election, not at the direction of Obama or his administration.