Greg Abbott Says Fleeing Texas Democrats 'Will Be Arrested' When They Return to State

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So not a Guru

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July 15, 2021, 03:13 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
[quote="Jim at Gentex" post_id=13259 time=1626272884 user_id=83]
The founding fathers were very wise to include that option
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Not exactly.

"Most trace the filibuster back to 1806 when the Senate eliminated a rule stating that a simple majority could end debate and move to a vote, but they put no restrictions on how long debate could go on. Over 100 years later, in response to a few Senators filibustering a bill during World War 1, the Cloture Rule was created requiring a supermajority vote in the Senate to formally end debate and move to a vote. The need for this supermajority is exactly what founding fathers James Madison and Alexander Hamilton warned would make the Senate ineffective back when they were writing the Federalist Papers in 1788."

It would appear at least two of the founding fathers decidedly did not believe it to be such a wise option.

Jim at Gentex

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July 15, 2021, 04:21 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Hmmmm...interesting.
I stand corrected.

The Cloture Rule did effectively the same thing though.
Enough Senators had to agree to end a debate and move to a vote.
If 2/3 could agree on that, then it is assumed the negotiation over the bill in question is finished.

I don't know why Madison and Hamilton would be opposed to the idea of a 2/3 majority as a practical procedural matter, otherwise one or two Senators could effectively grind the whole Senate to a halt indefinitely.  If 2/3 of today's Senate can agree on ANYTHING, that is noteworthy.
"Never argue with idiots.
They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

gcode

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July 17, 2021, 08:20 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
This Week in Pictures
Dem's on the Lam

I like the ostrich

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gcode

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July 18, 2021, 03:45 PM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
What's good for the goose...


QuoteSen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. condemned the Democratic spending package and said during an exclusive interview on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures" that, if needed, he will follow the lead of the Texas House Democrats who fled their home state in an effort to kill GOP-backed voting legislation.

"Hell yeah, I would leave," Graham told host Maria Bartiromo. "I would use everything lawfully in my toolbox to prevent rampant inflation."

The Republican senator made the comments five days after Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announced that the Budget Committee had reached an agreement to allot $3.5 trillion for a spending package that would complete President Biden's infrastructure plan.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-graham-says-hell-follow-the-lead-of-texas-house-dems-who-fled-state-and-leave-for-vote-on-spending-bill">//https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-graham-says-hell-follow-the-lead-of-texas-house-dems-who-fled-state-and-leave-for-vote-on-spending-bill


Should be a good show, but it won't work.. too many RHINO`s
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