3Rd booster shot

Started by byte, August 25, 2021, 12:25 PM

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byte

#75
The death rate is also quite alarmingly high

https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-19-death-toll-passes-7000-over-500-felled-by-virus-in-august-alone/">https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-19- ... ust-alone/">https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-19-death-toll-passes-7000-over-500-felled-by-virus-in-august-alone/

"More than 550 people have died of COVID in August, over 100 of them in the last five days alone."

thad

#76
Quote from: pmartin post_id=15290 time=1630582756 user_id=85Glad to see that the covid hasn't

I think you just got Del's attention.   :rofl:
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pmartin

#77
Quote from: thad post_id=15302 time=1630591827 user_id=54
Quote from: pmartin post_id=15290 time=1630582756 user_id=85Glad to see that the covid hasn't

I think you just got Del's attention.   :rofl:


That's okay, a fishes memory is only about 5 seconds. :harhar:

thad

#78
Quote from: neurosis post_id=15286 time=1630536483 user_id=49Well crap.. If Joe tries it it must be ok?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/joe-rogan-says-he-tested-positive-covid-took-ivermectin-n1278323">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jo ... n-n1278323">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/joe-rogan-says-he-tested-positive-covid-took-ivermectin-n1278323


Do you have an opinion on the FLCCC? They recommend Ivermectin in their covid protocols. How about you, Beej? Doug?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/">https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/
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YoDoug

#79
What happens if the vaccine is only providing temporary protection and actually provides a diminishing return of effectiveness the more we dose? There is data that could be interpreted to back this up. That is a scary thought. IMO, we should concerned about the lack of long term data from these vaccines that went through shortened clinical trials. We are seeing the stated effectiveness fall sharply from the 90%+ they claimed at the beginning of the year. We are also starting see the theory that those vaccinated have less severe Covid illness fall as well. In the meantime, the virus will continue to mutate against a weak vaccine until it renders the vaccine completely ineffective, or worse exploits a weakness in the vaccine to harm even more people. We may look back on this in a few years and see that we did exactly the wrong thing, except for record profits for big pharma.

YoDoug

#80
Quote from: thad post_id=15304 time=1630592061 user_id=54
Quote from: neurosis post_id=15286 time=1630536483 user_id=49Well crap.. If Joe tries it it must be ok?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/joe-rogan-says-he-tested-positive-covid-took-ivermectin-n1278323">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jo ... n-n1278323">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/joe-rogan-says-he-tested-positive-covid-took-ivermectin-n1278323


Do you have an opinion on the FLCCC? They recommend Ivermectin in their covid protocols. How about you, Beej? Doug?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/">https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/


I really don't have an opinion on Ivermectin. I have not seen any studies that show enough data. I do believe that if doctors are prescribing it and seeing success there should be some more investigating done to validate it. I also don't think people should run out and get animal grade Ivermectin and take it.

As for the left media hit pieces, remember Hydroxychloroquine. They were all against it and even created enough fear that governors made EO's banning it's use for Covid treatment. Now, they have all gone quiet on Hydroxychloroquine and several well respected medical groups have it in their flow chart of treatments for Covid. The same thing is happening with Ivermectin now. The media needs the buzz and click bait to generate revenue. The left needs a scare tactic to use to further control people. Big pharma needs you to be afraid so you will take whatever vaccine/booster/treatment pill/etc they come up with next to keep making record profits off of this pandemic. In a few weeks/months no one will be talking about Ivermectin and they will have moved on to something else.

neurosis

#81
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=15306 time=1630593357 user_id=58In a few weeks/months no one will be talking about Ivermectin and they will have moved on to something else.


I'm not sure that it would even be a talking point if people weren't doing exactly what you said above. Running out and buying the stuff from animal feed stores and taking it.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

YoDoug

#82
Quote from: neurosis post_id=15307 time=1630593640 user_id=49
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=15306 time=1630593357 user_id=58In a few weeks/months no one will be talking about Ivermectin and they will have moved on to something else.


I'm not sure that it would even be a talking point if people weren't doing exactly what you said above. Running out and buying the stuff from animal feed stores and taking it.


How many people are? That's what these articles don't have any clue. Show some data on an increase in Ivermectin sales for animal use. Show some data from hospital admissions from Ivermectin over use. They don't have the data to back it up but want to paint the picture that it is out of control.

It's all designed to generate mouse clicks. That is the problem with most media these days. We live in an over-information age. You have you local TV, cable news, old school print news, internet news, youtubers, twitters, bloggers, etc. they are all vying for your clicks and attention. A moderate, centrist based news outfit is not going to survive. They need outrage, offense, emotional triggers, etc to get their info on the top of that Google search.

byte

#83
Quote from: neurosis post_id=15307 time=1630593640 user_id=49
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=15306 time=1630593357 user_id=58In a few weeks/months no one will be talking about Ivermectin and they will have moved on to something else.


I'm not sure that it would even be a talking point if people weren't doing exactly what you said above. Running out and buying the stuff from animal feed stores and taking it.


People also eat tide pods.  :lol:

neurosis

#84
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=15308 time=1630594534 user_id=58How many people are?


I don't know for sure, but they just had  press release on our local news station right after I posted that warning people in Washington State to stop taking it. Apparently poison control is getting a lot of calls from people having bad side effects from it.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

YoDoug

#85
Also, for the record, to anyone that reads any of my posts about Covid here and considers it valid and possibly affects their decisions, please consider the following;

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beej

#86
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=15308 time=1630594534 user_id=58How many people are? That's what these articles don't have any clue.


I've talked to a few people lately that are taking ivermec as a preventative. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that they don't trust an FDA approved vaccine, because they don't know what's in it, but they will take something approved for livestock. But overall, it comes down to a lack of trust in Government officials and Media.  If a government official tells a lie for something that he considers a "greater good", there can hardly be anything more damaging to public trust.

and when the media is telling you something opposite of what you can see with your own eyes, the tendency is to discard everything they say as lies, even when there may be some truth mixed in there somewhere.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

thad

#87
Quote from: beej post_id=15318 time=1630596349 user_id=98I've talked to a few people lately that are taking ivermec as a preventative. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that they don't trust an FDA approved vaccine, because they don't know what's in it, but they will take something approved for livestock.


Here you go, beej.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/  Since you seem to think that Ivermectin is something ONLY for livestock.
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HTM01

#88
Quote from: beej post_id=15318 time=1630596349 user_id=98
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=15308 time=1630594534 user_id=58How many people are? That's what these articles don't have any clue.


 It's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that they don't trust an FDA approved vaccine, because they don't know what's in it,


but they will drink, eat and smoke stuff they don't know what's in it or like cigs they do know it's poisonous and still do it

beej

#89
Quote from: thad post_id=15319 time=1630597395 user_id=54
Quote from: beej post_id=15318 time=1630596349 user_id=98I've talked to a few people lately that are taking ivermec as a preventative. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that they don't trust an FDA approved vaccine, because they don't know what's in it, but they will take something approved for livestock.


Here you go, beej.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/  Since you seem to think that Ivermectin is something ONLY for livestock.


I guess I should have clarified. The guys I talked to were getting the ivermec from Tractor Supply. they sell it in several forms there. in a paste tube for horses, or in a bottle that can be drawn up into a syringe and also a pill for dog heartworm preventative.  So that's why I said they were trusting something approved for livestock.  I am aware that you can get a prescription for it. but that is not what they guys I talked to were doing. Also, I don't know what dosage they were using. Farmers that use it often pretty much know what dosage to use based on body weight.  but you have to use different dosages to get rid of different parasites.  My guess is that these guys are using the dosage that would prevent heartworms which is 1cc per 100lbs of body weight.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo