Antifa is a terrorist organization?

[Del.]

What exactly is your objection to them being labeled terrorists? I know nothing about them other than the videos I've seen of them doing violence.

That Trump declared them terrorist. No other reason. TDS is incurable.

[Jeff]

unbelievable, smit.  A good man was just killed for being labeled fascist, by a man who claimed to be anti-fascist. And you come here and try to support them? All they want is Freedom, eh? Freedom from what? the consitution? freedom from debate? freedom from Christianity? freedom from diversity of thought?

You'd have to write that in Crayon so he understands it.

He showed his stupidity once again by:
1) not knowing who Charlie Kirk was
2) not knowing what Antifa has done
3) blaming Trump for them being a terrorist organization

[Smit]

In their eyes, maybe I am too.

To the best of my knowledge there wasn't a "their." It was a single guy, likely kinda unhinged, just like so many of the other shootings that happen in this country.

How about the school shootings, the black church shooting (baptist, I think, if it matters), the dem congressman from Minnesota, etc etc. I'm sure you haven't forgotten them but maybe they're just not as "close" to you as the shootings you mentioned?

Well I hope you get through the day without getting shot. I think the odds are in your favor. I hope that I do too for that matter. There are wackos everywhere it seems. I guess we're all in peril.

[Jeff]

Someone has their lefty parrot talking points memorized.

[beej]

To the best of my knowledge there wasn't a "their." It was a single guy, likely kinda unhinged, just like so many of the other shootings that happen in this country.

It seems like the shooter acted alone. I don't dispute that. But when I say "their" I am saying that far left groups and even some relatively moderate groups (if you want to call young turks moderate) labeled Charlie as a fascist. Once you are a fascist, the only thing to do is delete them, in their eyes.

[Smit]

Once you are a fascist, the only thing to do is delete them, in their eyes.

I'm glad you've developed a solid understanding of what "they" are thinking. Have you figured out what the right wing wackos who kill "lefties, trans, baptist, etc" are thinking too? If so that would be really great!

And can we now please return to the original topic, how Trump and his loyal appointees are using the tragedy to label the people and groups who don't support him/them as "antifa" and treat them as domestic terrorists?

That is NOT a good look for a country that prides itself on being a representative republic.

[beej]

And can we now please return to the original topic, how Trump and his loyal appointees are using the tragedy to label the people and groups who don't support him/them as "antifa" and treat them as domestic terrorists?

now who is being irrational? can you give an example of a peaceful group of people that trump is labeling as "antifa?"

[mowens]

This whole thread, as so many on this forum, seems like an excuse to be outraged.

[SuperHoneyBadger]

This does make sense. To a fascist, the anti fascist would look like a terrorist.

Kinda like one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist? Except more straight forward.

I don't think you know shit about antifa or the black block. Have you met one in person? Have you seen them organize to molotov squad cars? Have you been there when the masks come out?

It is organized. It is purposefully violent. It has been rife with antagonists who step away from the front of the crowd to disappear after a riot has been incited. I have met them, and they are lunatics, they are ALL foaming-at-the-mouth-leftists who want you to check your pronouns. You think it's ok to cordon off sections of cities, defund the police, and kill random people who don't leave the area, or who don't follow the Antifa rules?

Your ignorance is astonishing, this has been going on for 20+ years, G10/G7 summits, all of Seattle, up here in Canada almost every left leaner I knew in my 20s was either symapthetic or a participant. Proudly, I might add. This is absolutely domestic terrorism, and to cap it all off they don't even know what a fucking fascist is. "HUrR TruMP is a DicTItoR, fascist PIG". They enjoy buzzwords, and are easily manipulated. Round em up, put em away.

[Smit]

What exactly is your objection to them being labeled terrorists? I know nothing about them other than the videos I've seen of them doing violence.

I missed this post. If people are being violent and break the law then hold them accountable, no problem.

But a riot isn't terrorism, as in random shooting, bombings, other stuff intended to induce terror. I'm not sure what the difference in penalty would be between the two but really it's kind of rhetorical.

[gcode]

Your ignorance is astonishing,

military grade rose colored glasses will do that to a man 

[Del.]

military grade rose colored glasses will do that to a man 

GOVX .com

[Smit]

I don't think you know shit about antifa or the black block. Have you met one in person? Have you seen them organize to molotov squad cars? Have you been there when the masks come out?

Are there riots? Yes.

Are they organized? Yes.

Are they all labeled "antifa?" Yes.

Are they "ALL foaming-at-the-mouth-leftists?" No.

Can the Trump administration be trusted to determine what is antifa and what is not? No.

[Jeff]

The moron actually said stuff intended to induce terror isn't terrorism.

[mowens]

Like I said, I only know what I've seen on video. But in one of those, I saw several people dressed in black, wearing helmets and masks, attack a group of people who were holding signs; I don't know if they were demonstrating against abortion, gay people, or what. But the people in black attacked them, hitting them with sticks and clubs and then taking off.

Like most things on here, I think the truth lies somewhere between Smit and Jeff.

Ultimately, though, it doesn't matter.