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Del. · October 14, 2025, 04:06 PM

https://youtu.be/_NkYnR_iLP0?si=lN0lN_uLtXg1h2Tf

Jeffries throwing it back at Republicans for shutdown. You know, if Obamacare is going to triple in costs without subsidies, then maybe they should come up with a better alternative. Throwing too much money at something is the Democrats way! They are definitely shutting the government down for this reason only. In my opinion, keeping the government running is THE most important issue. I don't see Trump or Republicans caving.

Smit · October 14, 2025, 04:24 PM

Well, happily, the Repugs are going to repeal the ACA and replace it with something better!

It's going to be great and it will be the best health care in the world! Bigger and better than the ACA and so cheap we can give it to immigrants, which we aren't going to have any of, unfortunately for them!

Wait...that was in 2016. Regardless, it will be great and worth the wait!

Del. · October 14, 2025, 04:31 PM

Quote from: Smit on October 14, 2025, 04:24 PMWell, happily, the Repugs are going to repeal the ACA and replace it with something better!

It's going to be great and it will be the best health care in the world! Bigger and better than the ACA and so cheap we can give it to immigrants, which we aren't going to have any of, unfortunately for them!

Wait...that was in 2016. Regardless, it will be great and worth the wait!

I'll give you that the Republicans haven't offered anything better. That doesn't make the AFFORDABLE Care Act a good plan.

CNCAppsJames · October 14, 2025, 05:17 PM

Obamacare should just be repealed and go back to the way it was before that abomination was passed.

Smit · October 14, 2025, 05:25 PM

Well, the the Repugs have already taken care of their big obligation, which is to give big tax breaks to the rich. Check that off the list.

They control the house, the senate, the executive branch, and the supreme court. Surely they have enough time to fix our healthcare system now.

I sure would like to see the Repug priority list. I wonder if health care is even on the list?

Bucky Cornstarch · October 15, 2025, 08:29 AM

Public option. Or, we can continue to have the worst healthcare system in the world.

jstell · October 15, 2025, 10:04 AM

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on October 15, 2025, 08:29 AMPublic option. Or, we can continue to have the worst healthcare system in the world.

I feel like I've heard that somewhere recently.
(https://mastercamforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,4931.msg101451.html#msg101451)

beej · October 15, 2025, 10:51 AM

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on October 15, 2025, 08:29 AMPublic option. Or, we can continue to have the worst healthcare system in the world.

what makes you think it will be better with republicans\democratics running it?

Bucky Cornstarch · October 15, 2025, 10:59 AM

Quote from: jstell on October 15, 2025, 10:04 AMI feel like I've heard that somewhere recently.
(https://mastercamforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,4931.msg101451.html#msg101451)

It's like a broken record.

Bucky Cornstarch · October 15, 2025, 11:01 AM

Quote from: beej on October 15, 2025, 10:51 AMwhat makes you think it will be better with republicans\democratics running it?

A healthcare system should not have profit as its number one motive.

beej · October 15, 2025, 11:05 AM

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on October 15, 2025, 11:01 AMA healthcare system should not have profit as its number one motive.

We have public schools that do not have profit as their number one motive. And look at how far the reading and math levels are compared to schools that are "for profit."

jstell · October 15, 2025, 11:21 AM

Quote from: beej on October 15, 2025, 11:05 AMWe have public schools that do not have profit as their number one motive. And look at how far the reading and math levels are compared to schools that are "for profit."

Statistics, please.

beej · October 15, 2025, 11:30 AM

Quote from: jstell on October 15, 2025, 11:21 AMStatistics, please.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/news/local-news/peoria-public-schools-reading-and-math-comprehension-scores-below-state-average/

https://ocpathink.org/post/independent-journalism/private-schools-excelling-as-public-schools-fall-test-shows

https://www.americanexperiment.org/catholic-schools-defy-sobering-academic-trends/

jstell · October 15, 2025, 11:37 AM

The first one seems to be Peoria v. Illinois as a whole. I don't see mention of private schools.
The second one shows a statistical difference in reading and math, but I'd be curious about science.
The third, a comparison of covid disruption, is interesting.

beej · October 15, 2025, 11:56 AM

Quote from: jstell on October 15, 2025, 11:37 AMThe first one seems to be Peoria v. Illinois as a whole. I don't see mention of private schools.

it is, but if you take a look at the numbers the are comparing dismal numbers to devastating numbers. We don't live in Illinois but I'm close to the border and have a lot of friends there. So that article got share a lot around me. It was one of the driving factors in my daughter's decision to homeschool her children.

As far as science goes, it would probably surprise you, the emphasis that a catholic school, for instance, puts on science. I can't speak for other denominations or charter schools.