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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on October 17, 2025, 01:53 PMHow many "settled science" issues were proven false that year? Too many to count. That's just one single issue.

How many? And what were they discredited on?
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Quote from: neurosis on October 17, 2025, 01:55 PMIs the argument that you can no longer believe scientists? Or Politicians telling us who to believe? 
No, it's not that at all. We should not be believing anyone that pulls the "settled science" card for one regardless of their affiliations (politicians, "scientists", etc...)
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Quote from: neurosis on October 17, 2025, 01:55 PMIs the argument that you can no longer believe scientists? Or Politicians telling us who to believe?


Neither. Its to use your brain and think for yourself.

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There is only one "REAL" reality that we can actually live in. If new facts do not conform to the current paradigm the whole paradigm must be thrown out. This is REAL science. Real scientists WANT to be proven wrong. Not confirmed. That is core to the real scientific method.

The problem with being shown that you are wrong as a scientist is that your money all goes away then and who wants that! Its all about the money baby! Give me enough money and i will make sure the science is settled exactly how you want it!
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Quote from: Del. on October 17, 2025, 02:04 PMI don't believe in any fairy tale science.

How would you know the difference?
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Quote from: Zoffen on October 17, 2025, 02:05 PMThe problem with being shown that you are wrong as a scientist is that your money all goes away then and who wants that! Its all about the money baby! Give me enough money and i will make sure the science is settled exactly how you want it!

That's true, but now, other people want that money.

I'm not saying that data can't be influenced by biased funding. I'm saying that we live in a time where there are a lot of other scientists that have a platform to disprove false information. And it's easier to look that shit up now.
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Quote from: Del. on October 17, 2025, 02:06 PMIt's all a fairy tale.

If that's true, then how do you know that the mask thing, and the 4' thing, is bullshit now?

Is that also not believable science?
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Quote from: neurosis on October 17, 2025, 02:08 PMThat's true, but now, other people want that money.

I'm not saying that data can't be influenced by biased funding. I'm saying that we live in a time where there are a lot of other scientists that have a platform to disprove false information. And it's easier to look that shit up now.




I will state it again. If you try to challenge the current paradigm they will destroy you.

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Quote from: neurosis on October 17, 2025, 01:22 PMThere are 1000's of scientists out there that have an opportunity to make a name for themselves by discrediting settled science. And there are platforms for them to do that now.

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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on October 17, 2025, 02:04 PMNo, it's not that at all. We should not be believing anyone that pulls the "settled science" card for one regardless of their affiliations (politicians, "scientists", etc...)
So what do you rely on now?
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Quote from: neurosis on October 17, 2025, 02:11 PMIf that's true, then how do you know that the mask thing, and the 4' thing, is bullshit now?

Is that also not believable science?
You DO know that flies go through chain link fences right? 

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