War in Venezuela

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neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on October 27, 2025, 08:19 AMIf those boats were indeed trafficking fentanyl

From the reports I've read, 0% of fentanyl sold in the US comes from, or goes through, Venezuela. The reports also say that Venezuela isn't a producer of fentanyl. Most of it comes from Mexico and China.

I don't know how accurate those reports are. Probably at least as good as the reports coming from the Whitehouse saying that there is fentanyl on those boats?

I suspect that fentanyl has nothing to do with what's going on. Newb already kinda hinted on it. 
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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on October 27, 2025, 08:30 AMFrom the reports I've read, 0% of fentanyl sold in the US comes from, or goes through, Venezuela. The reports also say that Venezuela isn't a producer of fentanyl. Most of it comes from Mexico and China.

I don't know how accurate those reports are. Probably at least as good as the reports coming from the Whitehouse saying that there is fentanyl on those boats?

I suspect that fentanyl has nothing to do with what's going on. Newb already kinda hinted on it. 


When I find a liberal that is willing to discuss the proven Biden-Ukraine corruption then I will gladly entertain a discussion on Trumps "motives" for engaging in Venezuela, until then it is just more liberal partisan bs.
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neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on October 27, 2025, 08:57 AMWhen I find a liberal that is willing to discuss the proven Biden-Ukraine corruption then I will gladly entertain a discussion on Trumps "motives" for engaging in Venezuela, until then it is just more liberal partisan bs.

I've talked about Biden-Ukraine corruption. That doesn't count? :lol:


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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on October 27, 2025, 09:07 AMI've talked about Biden-Ukraine corruption. That doesn't count? :lol:




If you weren't a fence sitter you could answer that question yourself!  ;)
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neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on October 27, 2025, 09:12 AMIf you weren't a fence sitter you could answer that question yourself!  ;)

The Biden whataboutisms don't really work with me, since I probably disliked him as much as you did.

But I had to ask since I was the one (technically, I think newb was making a veiled accusation as well) questioning his motives. I would think that any principled conservative would as well. If there are any of those left. Speaking of that, where is Tulsi Gabbard?  :whistle: Probably out trying to find those "America first" non-interventionist  principles she lost?  :lol:

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Newbeeee™

Quote from: neurosis on October 27, 2025, 09:22 AMThe Biden whataboutisms don't really work with me, since I probably disliked him as much as you did.

But I had to ask since I was the one (technically, I think newb was making a veiled accusation as well) questioning his motives. I would think that any principled conservative would as well. If there are any of those left. Speaking of that, where is Tulsi Gabbard?  :whistle: Probably out trying to find those "America first" non-interventionist  principles she lost?  :lol:


Dafug have I done now!?!?!
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neurosis

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on October 27, 2025, 09:31 AMDafug have I done now!?!?!

I wasn't trying to throw you under the bus. Just referencing this comment  -



Quote from: Newbeeee™ on October 25, 2025, 10:37 PM"Yes, Venezuela has significant reserves of rare earth minerals, though they remain largely undeveloped. The country is believed to hold substantial deposits of rare earth elements (REEs), particularly in the southern region known as the Orinoco Mining Arc. These minerals are critical for manufacturing advanced technologies such as electric vehicles, wind turbines, and defense systems."
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Newbeeee™

Quote from: neurosis on October 27, 2025, 09:33 AMI wasn't trying to throw you under the bus. Just referencing this comment  -



Go back for every war - every crusade. It's all about land grab and controlling the resources.
Under the guise of "doing the right thing".... for the crown....
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Smit

Quote from: neurosis on October 27, 2025, 09:22 AMI would think that any principled conservative would as well. If there are any of those left.

I think there are still principled conservatives but they've left the Republican party. I expect they'd view themselves as independents now.

MIL-TFP-41

Quote from: YoDoug on October 27, 2025, 08:57 AMWhen I find a liberal that is willing to discuss the proven Biden-Ukraine corruption then I will gladly entertain a discussion on Trumps "motives" for engaging in Venezuela, until then it is just more liberal partisan bs.

As soon as someone says "but what about when Bidet did so and so" they are basically admitting that Trump is doing the same thing.

2 douche bags are still 2 douche bags. One doesn't do anything to make the other look better.
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YoDoug

Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on October 27, 2025, 11:39 AMAs soon as someone says "but what about when Bidet did so and so" they are basically admitting that Trump is doing the same thing.

2 douche bags are still 2 douche bags. One doesn't do anything to make the other look better.

He might be, but I just don't have time to engage with people that refuse to drop their hardline partisan ideology.
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Brian

Quote from: neurosis on October 27, 2025, 08:30 AMFrom the reports I've read, 0% of fentanyl sold in the US comes from, or goes through, Venezuela. The reports also say that Venezuela isn't a producer of fentanyl. Most of it comes from Mexico and China.

Me! Me! Me! (Jumping up and down-raising hand wildly so the teacher calls on me....).

I just figgered it out! While Venezuela doesn't "make" Fentanyl, they ship it thru there so they don't get tariffed coming thru China!
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Jeff

Quote from: Brian on October 27, 2025, 12:51 PMWhile Venezuela doesn't "make" Fentanyl, they ship it thru there

That's more true than people realize.
Venezuela is a major transit hub for drugs.

And the Maduro is also the leader of the Cartel of the Suns.

neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on October 28, 2025, 08:31 AMVenezuela is a major transit hub for drugs

Cocaine, maybe. Not fentanyl. At least not from what I've read.




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