War in Venezuela

[CNCAppsJames]

Wow. Maybe I ought to stop telling everyone in the world, including every politician possible, to go fuck themselves. Then with 25+ years of history of me doing that very thing...too late.

If someone is over 30 and they aren't on some government list for telling at least a few dozen politicians and a POTUS that their anal cranial inversion syndrome is showing and it's not a good look... I SERIOUSLY question their patriotism. 

 

[Bucky Cornstarch]

If someone is over 30 and they aren't on some government list for telling at least a few dozen politicians and a POTUS that their anal cranial inversion syndrome is showing and it's not a good look... I SERIOUSLY question their patriotism.
 

We need a keyboard baddass emoji.

[pmartin]

Shirley, nobody really thinks these strikes are about drug interdictions, do they?

I don't know this "nobody" nor do I care what he thinks.

And quit calling me Shirley.

[MIL-TFP-41]

Clearly only the brownest of brown nosers actually believe this is about drugs. And now with the seizure of "a large tanker, very large, the largest one ever seized actually" (I think that is called piracy, but that is a matter of semantics) it is obvious that this is about getting someone installed in Venezuela who give the US a deal on oil.

Considering the US's stellar record on regime changes (think Syria, Burma, Guatemala, Iran, Cuba, Honduras, Vietnam, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) who thinks this will actually work out in the long run?

[Bucky Cornstarch]

^ I'll take Puppet State for $200, Alex.

[jstell]

seizure of "a large tanker, very large, the largest one ever seized actually" (I think that is called piracy, but that is a matter of semantics)

His wide-ranging rant in PA the other day covered this.  He's all butt-hurt about Somalia and the "garbage" but he did mention they're very good at stealing boats.  I feel like this is one of those Grinch lightbulb moments.  "Hey wait a minute.  We could do that."  (of course followed by internal dialogue "and we'll do it the best ever, with the biggest boat ever, and it will make us great, which we are, the hottest, and it will be huge..."  Six pages of Truth later, and Hegseth takes it as marching orders.

[beej]

nobel prize winner had to be smuggled out of venezuela for her own safety. Been in hiding for over a year.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-mission-maria-corina-machado-out-of-venezuela/

[beej]

Biden Admin sanctioned this tanker in 2022. I have no idea what it means to sanction a tanker, was it still working against Biden's sanctions? And then the next question would be, what do you do if you sanction a ship and then it continues non sanctioned work anyway?

[Smit]

Biden Admin sanctioned this tanker in 2022. I have no idea what it means to sanction a tanker, was it still working against Biden's sanctions? And then the next question would be, what do you do if you sanction a ship and then it continues non sanctioned work anyway?

Good question.

From what I've read the ship was well known for moving oil from sanctioned countries. But does the U.S. have the international right to board and seize the ship? I don't know.

[neurosis]

nobel prize winner had to be smuggled out of venezuela for her own safety. Been in hiding for over a year.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-mission-maria-corina-machado-out-of-venezuela/

So they snuck the opposition leader out of Venezuela   

I wonder what they have up their sleeve? 

[jstell]

So they snuck the opposition leader out of Venezuela   

I wonder what they have up their sleeve? 

1953, Shah of Iran hiding out in Baghdad, then Rome for a few days while CIA and MI6 worked their magic for him to return to power.  That turned out well.  At least for 25 years or so.

[CNCAppsJames]

And the CIA itself nor anyone in it is NEVER held to account for their fuckery.

We DO NOT hate our government NEARLY enough.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

I remember protesting when the CIA would come to our campus to recruit, and how when George Bush Sr was running for president in 1988 we thought he was the devil incarnate because he was a former director of the CIA.

Bucky and Nutboy, sittin' in a tree...

  

[mowens]

I remember protesting when the CIA would come to our campus to recruit, and how when George Bush Sr was running for president in 1988 we thought he was the devil incarnate because he was a former director of the CIA.

Bucky and Nutboy, sittin' in a tree...

  

I was too busy making a living to worry about that stuff back then.

[jstell]

Bucky and Nutboy, sittin' in a tree...

Time to kiss and make up.

It's funny how that old bit about too far left or too far right brings out the same kind of crazy sometimes.  Opposite the circle from center and it comes around to where you actually agree on certain points.  Bernie 2028!

I remember in 2016 when it started to look like the Obnoxious Outrageous Orange was going to clean the primaries, thinking to myself, "This should only be allowed if Eminem is his running mate for VP."  Turns out they went the other way completely.