War in Venezuela

Started by TylerBeer, October 25, 2025, 09:12 AM

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CNCAppsJames

 @Newbeeee™ , Russia didn't seize their own smuggled energy to China... at least not that I can find any tales of. The entire world knew China was the middleman for Russia's petroleum products.

This story about Iran, as presented, doesn't make any sense to me.
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on December 16, 2025, 05:02 AMThe entire world knew China was the middleman for Russia's petroleum products.
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Not according to the trusted Be Beeee Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :rolleyes:
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TylerBeer

" President Donald J. Trump Designates Fentanyl as a Weapon of Mass Destruction"

Oh hell yeah - going to go into Venuzuela after WMDs Iraq style which totally worked out. Hell, hit up Columbia too while at it
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beej

my wife is a criminal court clerk, one of her co-workers had a son addicted to various drugs. He got into some trouble for selling drugs to pay for his habit. He ended up in county jail awaiting sentencing. He was probably going to get something like 5-10 years. The Judge that this guy's mother worked for, made some calls and got this guy a really good deal, if he promised to go through rehab and various other steps to get his life together.

The dealer, thinking that he had flipped on him to get that kind of a deal, killed him with fentanyl. The parents simply thought that he had Overdosed, until a few years later, when a drug bust was made and they found messages on some girl's phone that described what happened. Those messages probably wouldn't have meant much to anyone except that the fact that the judge still had this guy's mother working for him and he carried a lot of personal guilt for the guy's death.

I don't know if it's a weapon of mass destruction, but more people are dying from fentanyl than gun deaths in the US, so if you want guns to be gone, you should want fentanyl to be gone as well.
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mowens

Just when you think it can't get any worse or people any more stupid.

Medetomidine, a potent veterinary sedative not approved for human use, is a widespread and primary adulterant in the illicit drug supply in Philadelphia, especially fentanyl. Its presence has been linked to severe overdose and life-threatening withdrawal symptoms, prompting several public health alerts from the Philadelphia Department of Public Health and the CDC.

Key Information on Medetomidine in Philadelphia
Prevalence: Medetomidine was first detected in Philadelphia's drug supply in May 2024 and has rapidly increased, appearing in nearly 80-87% of tested "dope" (street opioid) samples, surpassing the previous common adulterant, xylazine.

Potency and Effects: It is estimated to be 100-200 times more potent than xylazine. When mixed with fentanyl, it can cause profound sedation and very low heart rates (bradycardia) and blood pressure (hypotension).

Overdose Response: Medetomidine is not an opioid, so naloxone (NARCAN®) does not reverse its sedative effects, though it should still be administered in suspected opioid-involved overdoses to address the fentanyl component. Patients may remain heavily sedated even after receiving naloxone.

Withdrawal Crisis: The presence of medetomidine has led to a new and severe withdrawal syndrome characterized by high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, intractable vomiting, and agitation. These symptoms often require intensive care unit (ICU) admission and specialized hospital treatment with medications like clinical dexmedetomidine, which is a related compound used in human medicine.

Public Health Response: The Philadelphia Department of Public Health provides resources and alerts regarding the changing drug supply, including information on harm reduction practices and where to find local community services for testing and wound care, which can be found on the Substance Use Philly website. Medetomidine test strips are also available through local community partners.
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TylerBeer

Quote from: beej on December 16, 2025, 07:18 AMmy wife is a criminal court clerk, one of her co-workers had a son addicted to various drugs. He got into some trouble for selling drugs to pay for his habit. He ended up in county jail awaiting sentencing. He was probably going to get something like 5-10 years. The Judge that this guy's mother worked for, made some calls and got this guy a really good deal, if he promised to go through rehab and various other steps to get his life together.

The dealer, thinking that he had flipped on him to get that kind of a deal, killed him with fentanyl. The parents simply thought that he had Overdosed, until a few years later, when a drug bust was made and they found messages on some girl's phone that described what happened. Those messages probably wouldn't have meant much to anyone except that the fact that the judge still had this guy's mother working for him and he carried a lot of personal guilt for the guy's death.

I don't know if it's a weapon of mass destruction, but more people are dying from fentanyl than gun deaths in the US, so if you want guns to be gone, you should want fentanyl to be gone as well.

Your singular anecdote is heart wrenching but i didn't like chemical weapons either yet Iraq war was a bad idea.

TylerBeer

Quote from: mowens on December 16, 2025, 07:27 AMJust when you think it can't get any worse or people any more stupid.

Medetomidine, a potent veterinary sedative not approved for human use, is a widespread and primary adulterant in the illicit drug supply in Philadelphia, especially fentanyl. Its presence has been linked to severe overdose and life-threatening withdrawal symptoms, prompting several public health alerts from the Philadelphia Department of Public Health and the CDC.

Key Information on Medetomidine in Philadelphia
Prevalence: Medetomidine was first detected in Philadelphia's drug supply in May 2024 and has rapidly increased, appearing in nearly 80-87% of tested "dope" (street opioid) samples, surpassing the previous common adulterant, xylazine.

Potency and Effects: It is estimated to be 100-200 times more potent than xylazine. When mixed with fentanyl, it can cause profound sedation and very low heart rates (bradycardia) and blood pressure (hypotension).

Overdose Response: Medetomidine is not an opioid, so naloxone (NARCAN®) does not reverse its sedative effects, though it should still be administered in suspected opioid-involved overdoses to address the fentanyl component. Patients may remain heavily sedated even after receiving naloxone.

Withdrawal Crisis: The presence of medetomidine has led to a new and severe withdrawal syndrome characterized by high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, intractable vomiting, and agitation. These symptoms often require intensive care unit (ICU) admission and specialized hospital treatment with medications like clinical dexmedetomidine, which is a related compound used in human medicine.

Public Health Response: The Philadelphia Department of Public Health provides resources and alerts regarding the changing drug supply, including information on harm reduction practices and where to find local community services for testing and wound care, which can be found on the Substance Use Philly website. Medetomidine test strips are also available through local community partners.

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beej

Quote from: TylerBeer on December 16, 2025, 07:50 AMYour singular anecdote is heart wrenching but i didn't like chemical weapons either yet Iraq war was a bad idea.

it is definitely anecdotal, but it was eye opening to me how it's not just leading to accidental deaths but is being weaponized. I'm not agreeing with the WMD idea. That is a step too far for me, but there are people who are begging for something\anything to be done. But then again, the next president might come along and say the only way to get rid of the drug trade is to legalize all drugs and it will just go back and forth like that every 4 years. who knows? just when you think it can't get worse than this, it does.
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ghuns

Quote from: TylerBeer on December 16, 2025, 07:50 AMWonderful

It's actually much worse than even that article makes it sound.

Basically creates zombies with horrific, limb rotting wounds.

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beej

Quote from: ghuns on December 16, 2025, 08:32 AMIt's actually much worse than even that article makes it sound.

Basically creates zombies with horrific, limb rotting wounds.

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I heard about this a couple of years ago. I have a horse that needs a little sedative for getting shoes put on. I used to just go pick some up from the vet and give her about a 1\4 dose, just before the farrier got there. But the vet told me that federal law prevented them from doing that anymore.
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CNCAppsJames

Drug addicts ruin SO many things.
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TylerBeer

Oh man, the 1776 warrior bribe. This war is definitely starting before Xmas

TylerBeer

Quote from: TylerBeer on December 01, 2025, 11:31 AMWhen the first bombs drop I'll come back for Jeff's take

WHATS UP JEFF
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CNCAppsJames

Oh, and if it takes longer to grill up a tomahawk steak than to engage in "the war"... well.... somebody may need to pick up a dictionary and read up on what "war" is. 

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TylerBeer

Funny you've changed your tone completely on regime change