You guys must be so proud that you voted for Biden

[CADCAM396]

infrastructure to raise taxes. ya

[Jim at Gentex]

according to Biden, universal heath care, universal daycare and free college is infrastructure too

Yep.
In his mind, those things are rights.

Remember, Venezuela was a prosperous country until they decided that universal healthcare was a right.
One generation later, they are broke.

Jes sayin'...

[RobertELee]

[quote="Jim at Gentex" post_id=9398 time=1618061614 user_id=83]
One generation later, they are broke.

Jes sayin'...
[/quote]

But we will be different... we're already broke....

[neurosis]

[quote="Jim at Gentex" post_id=9398 time=1618061614 user_id=83]


Yep.
In his mind, those things are rights.

Remember, Venezuela was a prosperous country until they decided that universal healthcare was a right.
One generation later, they are broke.

Jes sayin'...
[/quote]

Not to rattle the boat, but is healthcare really what sunk that country?  Or was is a little more nefarious?

[Jim at Gentex]

Not to rattle the boat, but is healthcare really what sunk that country?  Or was is a little more nefarious?

It was definitely a factor.
Universal healthcare only aggravated the hyperinflation they were already experiencing, and many economists believe it pushed them over the edge of a cliff they were going over anyway.

Government takeover of oil production was another disastrous policy decision that helped doom their economy.
They now produce far less oil than they did back when their economy was booming, and their unemployment rate is staggering at over 40%.

Venezuela will always stand as a prime example of how a socialist government takeover can and will doom a country's economy.

[gcode]

Government takeover of oil production was another disastrous policy decision that helped doom their economy.

corruption was another huge factor.
My father worked in Venezuela in the early 60's
The oil companies were American and paid the Venezuelan government royalties
At the time Venezuela was the biggest oil producer in the world.
They still have the most proven reserves.
The oil companies were nationalized (seized by the government)at some point
He went back as a consultant in the early 90's, working for the state run oil company.
This was pre Maduro when Venezuela was still a democracy.
Every managerial position had 2 people filing it.
A connected Venezuelan had the title and the big $$ and an American engineer who was actually doing the job.
My dad told me everything got stolen.
If he need 10K feet of drill pipe he had to order 40K feet from the US.
A little bit got stolen every step of the way. If he was lucky, he had 10K feet left when the shipment arrived.
Kidnapping of American oil executives was rampant and he had an armed security detail 24/7
One night his security detail drug him out of his room, rushed him to the airport and put him on a plane
to Miami. The head of his security detail said he was going to be ambushed on the way to work in the
morning and he had to leave. He got on the plane and never went back.

Long story short
Maduro may have destroyed Venezuela, but the corrupt ruling class created the conditions that
put him in power.

[Incogneeto]

:_thumbup:  :_thumbup:

Government takeover of oil production was another disastrous policy decision that helped doom their economy.

corruption was another huge factor.
My father worked in Venezuela in the early 60's
The oil companies were American and paid the Venezuelan government royalties
At the time Venezuela was the biggest oil producer in the world.
They still have the most proven reserves.
The oil companies were nationalized (seized by the government)at some point
He went back as a consultant in the early 90's, working for the state run oil company.
This was pre Maduro when Venezuela was still a democracy.
Every managerial position had 2 people filing it.
A connected Venezuelan had the title and the big $$ and an American engineer who was actually doing the job.
My dad told me everything got stolen.
If he need 10K feet of drill pipe he had to order 40K feet from the US.
A little bit got stolen every step of the way. If he was lucky, he had 10K feet left when the shipment arrived.
Kidnapping of American oil executives was rampant and he had an armed security detail 24/7
One night his security detail drug him out of his room, rushed him to the airport and put him on a plane
to Miami. The head of his security detail said he was going to be ambushed on the way to work in the
morning and he had to leave. He got on the plane and never went back.

Long story short
Maduro may have destroyed Venezuela, but the corrupt ruling class created the conditions that
put him in power.

BULLSEYE !!!

[Jeff]

One night his security detail drug him out of his room, rushed him to the airport and put him on a plane
to Miami. The head of his security detail said he was going to be ambushed on the way to work in the
morning and he had to leave. He got on the plane and never went back.

That's some scary shit.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

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[Incogneeto]

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That had to be some kind of Fisheye lens.

Jimmy Carters shoes are twice the size of Bidens.

either that or jimmy still has on his Clown shoes.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

That had to be some kind of Fisheye lens.

Jimmy Carters shoes are twice the size of Bidens.

either that or jimmy still has on his Clown shoes.

NICE catch!  

[Shazam/TPP]

where are the masks??? those irresponsible people could have infected our your president!!!      :lightharhar:

[Jeff]

I'm still waiting for ONE person to brag about how great Pedo Joe is as a president and give examples. Not one single person since he was elected stole the election has mentioned how great he's doing.

So why are the Dumbsmits so silent?

[neurosis]

So why are the Dumbsmits so silent?

Because they've all been run off.  Smit and Tyler rarely post anymore and anyone else with an opposing opinion or view left.

[Incogneeto]

^^^WHINER^^^