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According to ALL major news outlets, both faux and real, the Trump Administration has approached US Automakers about manufacturing munitions to replace the US's depleted stockpiles.

This isn't anything we've seen since WWII. 

This both good and bad. 

Good, because we NEED to restock. 

Bad because, I just get a sense that it's gonna hit the fan. Russia knows the NATO Alliance is fractured at best and that the US basically props it up and Europe isn't interested in REALLY interestef in stopping Russia's incursion into Ukraine, Donbas, taking out the trash in their neighborhood, etc...

The CIA, Reagan, Obama and Biden created this mess.

The CIA because they force fed Iran the Shah, thus  creating the Iran Hostage situation. 

Regan because he didn't wipe Iran's military capacity off the face of the earth when he had the backing of the US people after we got our hostages back.

Obama because he gave Iran the means money to  create the weapons they are using to close the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea (?) access by Yemen. 

Biden because he flirted with the idea of admitting Ukraine into NATO backing Russia into a proverbial corner.

Y'all can say what you want about #OrangeManBad starting this war with Iran, but when your largest allies in the region (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, and yes Israel) are legitimately concerned with Iran's capacity to destroy it's neighbor's way of life we can't sit idle and watch it happen.

It's all bad. Very bad. I can't see a good long-term outcome no matter what happens, or doesn't happen.

On the bright side, our drone technology being sent to Taiwan may have China rethinking it's invasion plans for at least the near term. 🤞
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#1
UK putting itself onto "war preparation" and raising fighting age to 65 but refusing to say who the fight is against.
Germany implementing restricted movements for "fighting age males".
Cyprus apparently getting 82 tanks from Greece plus additional Israel air defence.
EU overall pushing for "their army"

What the fuk, is it all about?
All money is captured.
All land is controlled.
Why the noise and BS?
I despise the lot of them.
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Quote from: Newbeeee™ on April 19, 2026, 10:41 PMUK putting itself onto "war preparation" and raising fighting age to 65 but refusing to say who the fight is against.
Germany implementing restricted movements for "fighting age males".
Those two items came into my feed this morning... the 65 year old males hit again. I thought it was faux news the first time so I kind of joked about it. Whelp... beware of the old man that plays a game where men typically die young as they say.

Needless to say, I did NOT have this on my bingo card. :( 
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 19, 2026, 10:15 PMObama because he gave Iran the means money to  create the weapons they are using to close the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea (?) access by Yemen.

The Obama money is part of the money trail, but not the whole story. Iran isn't dumb and they have had to figure out a way around all the sanctions over the years. Their energy is cheap compared to pretty much everywhere else in the world. What do you do if you have cheap energy and a currency that is pretty much worthless outside of Iran? Turn on the bitcoin mines. The 1.7 billion was a finite resource, the bitcoin mining is a renewable revenue stream that sanctions cannot touch. Tough to sell natural gas because of sanctions? That's OK, use the gas to power massive bitcoin farms, essentially exporting their natural gas over the internet in the form of bitcoin.

Does this shift toward a "digital petro-state" make you wonder if other sanctioned nations (like Russia) are following the exact same blueprint?
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 20, 2026, 07:15 AMNeedless to say, I did NOT have this on my bingo card. :( 
I've been ruling it out in my head for a long time, but my big gut feeling, is cementing home army. To protect itself, incase of civil war.
Why civil war?
2030 and digital money etc and all the shite that it will entail.
IF only 25% of the "conspiracy theories" (and i despise that (CIA) label too) come true :shrug:
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Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on April 20, 2026, 07:25 AMThe Obama money is part of the money trail, but not the whole story. Iran isn't dumb and they have had to figure out a way around all the sanctions over the years. Their energy is cheap compared to pretty much everywhere else in the world. What do you do if you have cheap energy and a currency that is pretty much worthless outside of Iran? Turn on the bitcoin mines. The 1.7 billion was a finite resource, the bitcoin mining is a renewable revenue stream that sanctions cannot touch. Tough to sell natural gas because of sanctions? That's OK, use the gas to power massive bitcoin farms, essentially exporting their natural gas over the internet in the form of bitcoin.

Does this shift toward a "digital petro-state" make you wonder if other sanctioned nations (like Russia) are following the exact same blueprint?
Does make you wonder indeed. I hadn't even considered the bitcoin angle.
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 19, 2026, 10:15 PMhas approached US Automakers about manufacturing munitions to replace the US's depleted stockpiles.

They're gonna have to fix the tungsten/carbide supply chain stranglehold, if not first, at some point sooner than later.  Or all the factories in north america won't be able to bail us out this time.
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Digi Money and bitcoin etc is all a big ol deep dive.
First touted years ago in a Chatham House paper, it's grown from there.

These seem to be the big pushers now - DCMA who are a private org that "advocates for the advancement of digital currencies in central banks and money systems".
Their press release says they have been "working with governments and central banks on blockchain and digital currency since 2013"
Unsure who "they" exactly are though....
https://dcma.io/

Regarding Russia - yes all in on it too.
https://cbr.ru/eng/press/event/?id=20992

Regarding what it's all about - let Augustin Creosote tell you himself
https://x.com/i/status/1646578664610607104
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Quote from: jstell on April 20, 2026, 09:26 AMThey're gonna have to fix the tungsten/carbide supply chain stranglehold, if not first, at some point sooner than later.  Or all the factories in north america won't be able to bail us out this time.

Oddly... or maybe not... with Hormuz choked off and Venezuela's situation eerily quiet, I wonder if there's some back deal with China to get that tungsten supply more stable in exchange for the oil they need? 

Interesting times. 
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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 20, 2026, 04:09 PMI wonder if there's some back deal with China to get that tungsten supply more stable in exchange for the oil they need?
Wouldn't be the first time - we bought titanium from USSR to build SR71. 
The thing I could never figure out in the 80s was why we were selling so much grain to them.  Seems like we could have just starved them out.  Oh, never mind, with no adversary how would we have kept the military industrial complex at full grift?
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Quote from: jstell on April 20, 2026, 04:16 PMWouldn't be the first time - we bought titanium from USSR to build SR71. 
The thing I could never figure out in the 80s was why we were selling so much grain to them.  Seems like we could have just starved them out.  Oh, never mind, with no adversary how would we have kept the military industrial complex at full grift?
TBF, the MIC been doing MIC stuff since probably even before WWI. Defense Contractors were selling mosquito nets for trench warfare in WWI.
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Quote from: jstell on April 20, 2026, 04:16 PMOh, never mind, with no adversary how would we have kept the military industrial complex at full grift?
DingDingDingDing!!!!

Another aside.... I watched the new S4 Bob Lazar film the other night.
One thing he said which made me LoL - there was a Russian contingent working there on site but apparently a "major breakthrough" happened so the Ruskies had their clearance terminated and were not invited back.

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Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 20, 2026, 04:09 PMOddly... or maybe not... with Hormuz choked off and Venezuela's situation eerily quiet, I wonder if there's some back deal with China to get that tungsten supply more stable in exchange for the oil they need?

That would be nice, tho I doubt China will give up their monopoly so easily. I do know that there are mines being developed in Montana and South Korea. I suspect China will hold their reserves until those mines just start producing...and then they will flood the market, driving costs so low those mines will go under. Then those mines will be bought for pennies on the dollar by a shadow corporation, who in reality are tied to the tungsten mothership.

The US can slow the flow of oil, maybe drive the cost up a little, maybe even double, but not the 800% increase we are seeing in tungsten APT.

And speaking of slowing the oil flow....it should be noted that Russia is exempt from the sanctions for another 30 days. They are the winners out of this war, to the tune of around $1 billion per day. They used to have to sell at a discount, now they are selling at full price. Bad for Iran, great for Russia sort of thing.

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Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on April 21, 2026, 03:14 PMChina will hold their reserves until those mines just start producing...and then they will flood the market, driving costs so low those mines will go under.
Just like what they did with solar panels ten or fifteen years ago.  Some of the money that 'saved' us from the great recession was earmarked for manufacturing investment that went towards encouraging solar startups and expansions.  Then China dumped and they all folded.

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Quote from: jstell on April 21, 2026, 03:37 PMJust like what they did with solar panels ten or fifteen years ago.  Some of the money that 'saved' us from the great recession was earmarked for manufacturing investment that went towards encouraging solar startups and expansions.  Then China dumped and they all folded.


Pfffft !! Obama 535 million loss "Solyndra"   ::)  ::)  ::)
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