Vaccination and work

[Incogneeto]

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[neurosis]

There are a few sites that break it down to Nomenclature you can understand.
But the aforementioned Luc Montagniere is a very small contributor to the enormous amount of info.

I try not to immerse myself in it too deep because 1) you're not going to change anyone's opinion and it's unlikely that someone is going to change yours. 2) it looks like someone took something he (Luc Montagniere) said and some how manipulated it in to and end of the world scenario for anyone who's been vaccinated even though there has nothing to verify it and yet people are now losing their minds over it. To the point of trying to convince others not to get vaccinated because it will kill them.

I've only grazed through what he's actually said and he's being heavily criticized for some of it.

[Incogneeto]

There are a few sites that break it down to Nomenclature you can understand.
But the aforementioned Luc Montagniere is a very small contributor to the enormous amount of info.

I try not to immerse myself in it too deep because 1) you're not going to change anyone's opinion and it's unlikely that someone is going to change yours. 2) it looks like someone took something he (Luc Montagniere) said and some how manipulated it in to and end of the world scenario for anyone who's been vaccinated even though there has nothing to verify it and yet people are now losing their minds over it. To the point of trying to convince others not to get vaccinated because it will kill them.

I've only grazed through what he's actually said and he's being heavily criticized for some of it.

I understand.

Knowledge is Power.

When this started Dan and I were ahead of the Game, watching it explode in Wuhan.

Like all I would just like the truth.....But that ain't gonna happen.

Pretty much as the Bible said. "Let those that can define the name"

Prolly not the verbatim...But it works for me.

Nice speaking to you again I hope all of yours are well. Kiss ST for me and a hug. i don't know why she puts up with you. :w00t:

[neurosis]

i don't know why she puts up with you.

That makes two of us.. haha.

[Incogneeto]

i don't know why she puts up with you.

That makes two of us.. haha.

Big Smile!!!

Glad you are both ok.

[MIL-TFP-41]

Lets talk about vaxxing kids.
In Utah, there have been over 80,000 diagnosed cases for COVID in kids 18 or under.
Of those 80,000 cases, 45 were severe enough to warrant a stay at an ICU (.05%)
Total number of deaths for that age group?
ZERO

Let kids be kids. No need to mask in school (and going off of the compliance I observed last year, masks are a joke) and defiantly no need to vax. It simply isn't as dangerous to the youth.

[Incogneeto]

Lets talk about vaxxing kids.
In Utah, there have been over 80,000 diagnosed cases for COVID in kids 18 or under.
Of those 80,000 cases, 45 were severe enough to warrant a stay at an ICU (.05%)
Total number of deaths for that age group?
ZERO

Let kids be kids. No need to mask in school (and going off of the compliance I observed last year, masks are a joke) and defiantly no need to vax. It simply isn't as dangerous to the youth.

As far as I have seen kids are unaffected.....Except for the sensationalized MSM.

Quite simply you are asking me if I would Vaxx My Child......I would Not.

They were all born with a defense.

[Zoober]

I think it's foolish to tell anybody to get vaxxed or to not get vaxxed.
That is a decision that should be made between an individual and their physician.
Not by peer pressure or media hypocrites to make for somebody they don't even know to put an UNAPPROVED Medicine in their body.

[DUM1]

so there in the school board meeting , looks as though all are not masking but talking about masking the kids ? W T F
just like Obama having a big ole birthday bash , no masks ?
guess its just do as the say not as they do HUH ?    

[Smit]

Total number of deaths for that age group?
ZERO

Let kids be kids. No need to mask in school (and going off of the compliance I observed last year, masks are a joke) and defiantly no need to vax. It simply isn't as dangerous to the youth.

But the kids can still transmit Covid to other people. Mom and Dad, Grandma and Grandpa, other people they are around wherever they go.

I'm not saying we should vaccinate kids, especially before extensive testing has been done and the vaccine has been declared safe for the under 12 group. Having said that we should at least acknowledge that the kids can be carriers of the disease and have the potential to spread it to others.

As for the masks, well, we're wearing them full time where I work now. They're being required in many businesses in my area again. I don't really like wearing masks but in the big scheme of things it's just not a big deal. Something we have seen time and again is we let our guard down and start going back to "normal" and Covid spikes again. We should be doing what we can, collectively, to put this chit in the past.

[ghuns]

...But the kids can still transmit Covid to other people. Mom and Dad, Grandma and Grandpa, other people they are around wherever they go...

And apparently, so can all of us vaccinated adults. With that being the case, there is ZERO justification for giving it to a single kid. It is an experimental vaccine, and a shitty one at that...

CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-stu ... nated.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

[Smit]

And apparently, so can all of us vaccinated adults. With that being the case, there is ZERO justification for giving it to a single kid. It is an experimental vaccine, and a shitty one at that...

CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-stu ... nated.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

If the Covid vaccine doesn't prevent people from catching and spreading Covid then I'd agree there is not much point in giving it to kids and probably any healthy individual under a certain age.

It sure doesn't appear to be like the good old days when you kill a bunch of virus and shoot it up to develop a permanent immunity like the docs were able to do with Smallpox, Polio, et al.

[gcode]

It sure doesn't appear to be like the good old days when you kill a bunch of virus and shoot it up to develop a permanent immunity like the docs were able to do with Smallpox, Polio, et al.

Smallpox and polio vaccines were the work of generations
Covid  is less than a year and a half old.... and it mutates
The covid they developed the vaccine for last year is not the covid making people sick today.
It is possible the Chinese have unleashed something that will never be brought under control

[Jim at Gentex]

Smallpox and polio vaccines were the work of generations
Covid  is less than a year and a half old.... and it mutates
The covid they developed the vaccine for last year is not the covid making people sick today.
It is possible the Chinese have unleashed something that will never be brought under control

Exactly.
And in the meantime people will be running around getting 2,3,4x "boosters" every year and never comprehending that they don't work in the first place, and we still have no clue about the long-term effects of this mRNA technology.

ghuns nailed it.
It's still an experimental vaccine, and a shitty one at that.

More doctors going against the narrative and then being trashed and silenced only reinforces my opinion.
When people who can discuss this stuff at the PhD level are being told to shut up, that fact alone is more troubling to me than anything they actually have to say.

[neurosis]

It is possible the Chinese have unleashed something that will never be brought under control

Most people that I've read, and somewhat trust, say that this is probably going to be around forever just like the common cold.