Vaccine Passports

gcode · August 17, 2021, 09:26 AM

A woman who works for my wife has a married daughter who's sick along with the husband and everyone else
who lives in the house. She's 6 months pregnant and has been to the ER a couple times.
(25 tears old 102° fever and vomiting for 2 weeks now)
They keep sending her home. The hospital is nearly full and say she's not sick enough for one of the few available beds
Hope it all turns out OK

pmartin · August 17, 2021, 09:41 AM

Quote from: neurosis post_id=14479 time=1629216435 user_id=49I have a friend who's household got hit with the virus. Two are already in the hospital having problems breathing and have pneumonia. The whole family refuses to get vaccinated so I'm curious how this will play out. Hopefully nobody else ends up hospitalized and the two that are come out of this ok.

I guess that's an example of being willing to die for your beliefs.

neurosis · August 17, 2021, 10:31 AM

The guys sister just posted that he's getting Convalescent plasma therapy and is on oxygen right now. Their father is in too and is having a lot more trouble.

neurosis · August 17, 2021, 10:44 AM

Quote from: pmartin post_id=14487 time=1629218471 user_id=85I guess that's an example of being willing to die for your beliefs.

I don't blame anyone for having vaccine hesitancy. Especially with vaccines that are this new.

The Father is in his late 70's and already has some health issues. I don't know the story behind his not wanting the vaccination.

The son is my age. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and he eats pretty healthy. He hikes a lot and is generally pretty active. I've seen some of the things that he and his sister have posted on social media. It's a lot of conspiracy stuff. I assume that he's not getting it because of some crap that he's read and not bothered to research.

CNCAppsJames · August 17, 2021, 11:28 AM

Quote from: pmartin post_id=14487 time=1629218471 user_id=85
Quote from: neurosis post_id=14479 time=1629216435 user_id=49I have a friend who's household got hit with the virus. Two are already in the hospital having problems breathing and have pneumonia. The whole family refuses to get vaccinated so I'm curious how this will play out. Hopefully nobody else ends up hospitalized and the two that are come out of this ok.

I guess that's an example of being willing to die for your beliefs.

Death is NOT a forgone conclusion when one gets COVID... contrary to popular belief.

Mortality rate is 10x that of most flu strains (according to congressional testimony)... IOW (.1% for the flu) 1% for COVID... meaning there is a 99% or better that you won't die from it. 99%. Is 1% of the population more valuable than 99%?

Is it REALLY in our best interest as a nation to make 10's of MILLIONS suffer for the 1% that will most likely die from other things anyway? I don't say that to be callous, I say that because honestly, we have lost our collective minds with this thing. Few decisions are being made based on "science". The majority are being based on the opposite of "science"... emotions. Yeah I get it. It affects the medically vulnerable among us the most... generally people we care deeply about. Totally get it. We don't want great-grandparents, grandparents, parents, etc... to suffer this thing. 💯% get it. I live with two people that have a lower than average survivability rate, one of whom is my wife of 27 years. I don't want them to get this any more than I want anyone else to. But the irrationality of this thing has got to stop. Seriously.

The scientific fact is COVID is NOT ebola. It's not necrotising fascitis (sp?), it's not small pox, it's not bubonic plague, it's not Spanish flu, etc... ad infinitum, ad nauseum. It is something that has a very high survivability rate. Yeah it has a reasonable likelihood of kicking your ass pretty good. Putting you down for weeks. That being said, NOTHING the government has done or will do will eradicate or stop this thing. It's gonna do what it's gonna do. IOW it's gonna do virus stuff. So live your life. Turn off your TV's and give the finger to the people feeding and profiting off your fears.

YoDoug · August 17, 2021, 12:20 PM

I'll accept vaccine mandates/passport when we can start mandating healthy eating/living. Until then, STFU and mind your own business.

Jim at Gentex · August 17, 2021, 12:51 PM

Quote from: YoDoug post_id=14500 time=1629228034 user_id=58I'll accept vaccine mandates/passport when we can start mandating healthy eating/living. Until then, STFU and mind your own business.

I'd be happy if they started getting serious about the nastybug by closing the southern border, but that ain't gonna happen either.

Tim Johnson · August 17, 2021, 01:12 PM

Quote from: YoDoug post_id=14500 time=1629228034 user_id=58I'll accept vaccine mandates/passport when we can start mandating healthy eating/living. Until then, STFU and mind your own business.

I won't accept mandates for passports or healthy eating. If eating unhealthy (or healthy) is one of the ways that keeps you happy then go for it. That's as much of a right as owning weapons.