Interesting week ahead

[YoDoug]

I have not heard one single person give a valid explanation of how Biden won that many votes and all the statistical anomalies that had to happen for him to get that many votes.

Easy. Trump was a flawed candidate and you refuse to accept that. Enough normal, non-conspiracy theorist republicans were sick of his BS, and more left leaning people really, really hated him.  No-one who would vote for Bernie abstained out of protest like when Hillary was running.


I'm excited for 2024, it's looking like the republican party may face a split.   Going to be a lot of presidential hopefuls that are going to parrot his rhetoric to try and capture his base for a run, and then there will be the regular business republicans.

Trump was a flawed candidate that got 6 million more votes than Obama who was considered the greatest candidate ever by the media.

[Sharles]

I don't think this is correct. I can't believe all Trump voters, 75 million people, want to destroy the integrity of our nation by discarding the results of an election just to keep their orange God in power.

I can't put a number on how many people would be willing to do that and neither can you.

There are certainly more people who believe party uber alles than anybody would hope to exist but it's not 75 million.

Smit, I can honestly say how shocked I am at how many of my conservative friends and relatives believe all this quackery. It's discouraging beyond description. My wife and I seem to be anomalies and at this point just consider ourselves 'former' Republicans as the party has clearly lost its mind...though as I watch the Woke Left rear its ugly head...I'd say the same about the Left...sigh...

[TylerBeer]

I have not heard one single person give a valid explanation of how Biden won that many votes and all the statistical anomalies that had to happen for him to get that many votes.

Easy. Trump was a flawed candidate and you refuse to accept that. Enough normal, non-conspiracy theorist republicans were sick of his BS, and more left leaning people really, really hated him.  No-one who would vote for Bernie abstained out of protest like when Hillary was running.


I'm excited for 2024, it's looking like the republican party may face a split.   Going to be a lot of presidential hopefuls that are going to parrot his rhetoric to try and capture his base for a run, and then there will be the regular business republicans.

Trump was a flawed candidate that got 6 million more votes than Obama who was considered the greatest candidate ever by the media.

So if Trump got more votes than Obama, and Biden got more votes than Obama, we can use the maths to see that more peoples voted

[YoDoug]

Easy. Trump was a flawed candidate and you refuse to accept that. Enough normal, non-conspiracy theorist republicans were sick of his BS, and more left leaning people really, really hated him.  No-one who would vote for Bernie abstained out of protest like when Hillary was running.


I'm excited for 2024, it's looking like the republican party may face a split.   Going to be a lot of presidential hopefuls that are going to parrot his rhetoric to try and capture his base for a run, and then there will be the regular business republicans.

Trump was a flawed candidate that got 6 million more votes than Obama who was considered the greatest candidate ever by the media.

So if Trump got more votes than Obama, and Biden got more votes than Obama, we can use the maths to see that more peoples voted

Except that voter turnout % in approx 44 states stayed the relatively the same as 2008, 2012, and 2016. However in 6 states being contested voter turnout jumped. That doesn't happen naturally. More specifically voter turnout jumped massively in a small number of counties. Somehow Biden only won just over half of the counties Obama won but in those counties managed to get all time voter turnout and 11 million more votes. And he did this while having lower support from minorities and losing almost all of the bell weather counties that have determined every presidential race for the last 40+ years. Likewise, in those counties with massive voter turnout jumps, there was statistically impossible vote count jumps in the middle of the night shortly after counting had stopped. Then when counting resumed the ratio of Trump/Biden votes retuned to follow the same curve that it did before the count stops. By every standard our own state department has used to declare foreign election fraudulent, Biden's win is fraudulent.

Again, I have not seen one person give a logical explanation of how Biden could get so many votes while breaking all of those statistical norms from historical elections in the US. We use statistics for everything in life. Statistics are often said to be the gauge of reality. We use statistics to make financial decisions, evaluate markets, evaluate medicine and diseases. The entire insurance industry is based on statistics. Yet we are just supposed to ignore all previous election statistics because "Trump was a flawed candidate".

[Matthew Hajicek]

Except that voter turnout...

So why won't Trumps lawyers say anything about that in court?  They've more than had the opportunity, but they haven't even made any allegations.

Follow the money.  It's 100% a show for fundraising, to get people to contribute money "for the fight" that can go straight into private pockets.

[YoDoug]

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Except that voter turnout...

So why won't Trumps lawyers say anything about that in court?  They've more than had the opportunity, but they haven't even made any allegations.

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Again, you nor anyone has explained how Biden beats decades of statistics, nor explained the anomalies in vote counts. On the other hand Trump's team has taken sworn affidavits from hundreds of people that have not been allowed to testify in court and present their evidence.

[Matthew Hajicek]

Again, you nor anyone has explained how Biden beats decades of statistics, nor explained the anomalies in vote counts. On the other hand Trump's team has taken sworn affidavits from hundreds of people that have not been allowed to testify in court and present their evidence.

It's not my responsibility, or anyone's, to prove that the law was not broken.  It's the accusers responsibility to prove that the law was broken, and in this case that there were enough fraudulent votes to swing the election.  Trump's lawyers have filed several cases, and aside from those trying to stop the counting, they all boil down to accusations that a few dozen votes were not properly handled.  It doesn't matter how many "sworn affidavits" anyone has if all they indicate is that a few dozen votes were mishandled.

[John316]

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Again, you nor anyone has explained how Biden beats decades of statistics, nor explained the anomalies in vote counts. On the other hand Trump's team has taken sworn affidavits from hundreds of people that have not been allowed to testify in court and present their evidence.

It's not my responsibility, or anyone's, to prove that the law was not broken.  It's the accusers responsibility to prove that the law was broken, and in this case that there were enough fraudulent votes to swing the election.  Trump's lawyers have filed several cases, and aside from those trying to stop the counting, they all boil down to accusations that a few dozen votes were not properly handled.  It doesn't matter how many "sworn affidavits" anyone has if all they indicate is that a few dozen votes were mishandled.
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The information is there but instead of honestly looking at the evidence the Left is sweeping it under the rug.
Check it out for yourself
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/exclusive-over-432000-votes-removed-from-trump-in-pennsylvania-data-scientists-say_3642202.html?v=ul">//https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/exclusive-over-432000-votes-removed-from-trump-in-pennsylvania-data-scientists-say_3642202.html?v=ul

Pennsylvania election data shows that over 432,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump during the November election, data scientists say.

According to an analysis by the Data Integrity Group, obtained exclusively by The Epoch Times, votes for Trump—from both Election Day and mail-in ballots—were removed from the totals in at least 15 counties.

Time-series election data shows Trump's votes decrementing in various counties at numerous time points instead of increasing as would be expected under normal circumstances.

"There were vote movements across all candidates. However, we did not see the same type of negative decrements to any of the [other] candidates that we saw with President Trump's tallies, and they happened repeatedly with no explanation," Lynda McLaughlin, a member of the group, told The Epoch Times.

The Pennsylvania Secretary of State's office didn't respond to a request for comment from The Epoch Times.

The Data Integrity Group is a group of scientists, engineers, and machine learning experts who have been working together to check whether or not there was manipulation of data in the 2020 general election.

Data scientists from the group have analyzed the election data for several states including Arizona and Georgia.

In their analysis of Georgia's election data, the group said it found that more than 30,000 votes had been removed from Trump's tally, and another 12,173 votes were switched to Biden.

The group didn't name any state official, county official, or related voting machine manufacturers for wrongdoing.

However, the group urged the state to authorize forensic audits to uphold election integrity and said it's irresponsible to certify the results before the alleged errors and anomalies are explained.

"The bottom line is the errors were made. Data confirms these errors and it shouldn't matter if they were machine or human, they're still errors and deserve a second review and thorough analysis with forensic audits to find the answers," the group said.

I looked online for the Data Integrity Group information but couldn't find anything except for articles on other sites

[Matthew Hajicek]

The information is there but instead of honestly looking at the evidence the Left is sweeping it under the rug.

If this is true, then why didn't Trump's lawyers bring it up in court when they had the opportunity?  Why did they not allege that "Pennsylvania election data shows that over 432,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump during the November election" among their allegations that a few dozen votes were mishandled?  Why are most historically strong Trump supporting Republican politicians saying it's a nothingburger?

[gcode]

If this is true, then why didn't Trump's lawyers bring it up in court when they had the opportunity?

They were not allowed to present evidence
The PA Supreme Court is an elected political body controlled by Democrats
All the PA cases were thrown out "for lack of standing to file" or because they were "filed too late"

[Matthew Hajicek]

If this is true, then why didn't Trump's lawyers bring it up in court when they had the opportunity?

They were not allowed to present evidence
The PA Supreme Court is an elected political body controlled by Democrats
All the PA cases were thrown out "for lack of standing to file" or because they were "filed too late"

Presenting evidence comes AFTER the allegations.  They never made that allegation.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

I have not heard one single person give a valid explanation of how Biden won that many votes and all the statistical anomalies that had to happen for him to get that many votes.

Stop being such a looser.

[TylerBeer]

Trump was a flawed candidate that got 6 million more votes than Obama who was considered the greatest candidate ever by the media.

So if Trump got more votes than Obama, and Biden got more votes than Obama, we can use the maths to see that more peoples voted

Except that voter turnout % in approx 44 states stayed the relatively the same as 2008, 2012, and 2016. However in 6 states being contested voter turnout jumped. That doesn't happen naturally. More specifically voter turnout jumped massively in a small number of counties. Somehow Biden only won just over half of the counties Obama won but in those counties managed to get all time voter turnout and 11 million more votes. And he did this while having lower support from minorities and losing almost all of the bell weather counties that have determined every presidential race for the last 40+ years. Likewise, in those counties with massive voter turnout jumps, there was statistically impossible vote count jumps in the middle of the night shortly after counting had stopped. Then when counting resumed the ratio of Trump/Biden votes retuned to follow the same curve that it did before the count stops. By every standard our own state department has used to declare foreign election fraudulent, Biden's win is fraudulent.

Again, I have not seen one person give a logical explanation of how Biden could get so many votes while breaking all of those statistical norms from historical elections in the US. We use statistics for everything in life. Statistics are often said to be the gauge of reality. We use statistics to make financial decisions, evaluate markets, evaluate medicine and diseases. The entire insurance industry is based on statistics. Yet we are just supposed to ignore all previous election statistics because "Trump was a flawed candidate".

Given all the orangemanbad you guys throw around, can you not simply believe that people really hated Trump enough that they came out to vote? Because that's what happened

[YoDoug]

So if Trump got more votes than Obama, and Biden got more votes than Obama, we can use the maths to see that more peoples voted

Except that voter turnout % in approx 44 states stayed the relatively the same as 2008, 2012, and 2016. However in 6 states being contested voter turnout jumped. That doesn't happen naturally. More specifically voter turnout jumped massively in a small number of counties. Somehow Biden only won just over half of the counties Obama won but in those counties managed to get all time voter turnout and 11 million more votes. And he did this while having lower support from minorities and losing almost all of the bell weather counties that have determined every presidential race for the last 40+ years. Likewise, in those counties with massive voter turnout jumps, there was statistically impossible vote count jumps in the middle of the night shortly after counting had stopped. Then when counting resumed the ratio of Trump/Biden votes retuned to follow the same curve that it did before the count stops. By every standard our own state department has used to declare foreign election fraudulent, Biden's win is fraudulent.

Again, I have not seen one person give a logical explanation of how Biden could get so many votes while breaking all of those statistical norms from historical elections in the US. We use statistics for everything in life. Statistics are often said to be the gauge of reality. We use statistics to make financial decisions, evaluate markets, evaluate medicine and diseases. The entire insurance industry is based on statistics. Yet we are just supposed to ignore all previous election statistics because "Trump was a flawed candidate".

Given all the orangemanbad you guys throw around, can you not simply believe that people really hated Trump enough that they came out to vote? Because that's what happened

Interesting that it was just the people in approx 15 counties in 6 swing states that were orange man bad enough to come out in astounding numbers. The rest of the country, the bell weather counties, minorities according exit polling, did not. You don't find it suspicious that Biden supposedly got the most votes ever but every statistical marker that has determined a presidential win for the last 40+ years says he should not have won.

[Matthew Hajicek]

Suspicion isn't proof.