Vax mandate published today

Started by YoDoug, November 04, 2021, 07:45 AM

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Tim Johnson

#150
Quote from: pmartin post_id=19378 time=1638818642 user_id=85
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=19371 time=1638813621 user_id=82https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm">https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm


Nice try. I mean really, you speak facts and maths and all.

My bet is that only 1 or 2 people other than me have read that report and if they have it will be declared false.

Keep up the good work and maybe better luck next time.



With the politicization of this virus it's hard to believe anything good or bad coming from the CDC.
FJB

YoDoug

#151
The FDA (a tax payer funded gov agency) went to court to ask a judge to seal the records of Pfizer's (a private company) Covid trials for 55 years. That should scare anyone. Why is the federal gov trying to suppress info of a vaccine trial for a private company that the gov wants to mandate for everyone if they can figure out how to get away with it?

Our government agencies, FDA, CDC, USDA ,etc. are no longer serving the best interest of the people. They have been bought and staffed by big business dollars.

Jim at Gentex

#152
Quote from: Del. post_id=19276 time=1638562595 user_id=113It's my understanding that a positive rapid test is usually correct but a negative may not be


ALL of the testing is wonky in my personal experience.  :huh:

My wife and I both had minor COVID symptoms back in September, so we took the rapid test at a clinic not far from home.
Both tested negative.

We decided to try the PCR test to double check because we were still having symptoms.
Our local Rite-Aid offered the drive-thru PCR test, but you had to wait almost a week for results.
After the results came back I tested positive, she tested negative.

In the meantime my niece who is an RN checked up on us and she thought we should both be in the ER because both of our O2 levels were below 90.
We finally decided to go to the ER where the first thing they did was test us.
The hospital had the ability to do the PCR test on-site, so you don't have to wait days for the results.

At the ER, I tested positive, she tested negative.   :huh:  
They admitted me and started treatment, but they sent her home, even though we had the exact same symptoms.
Her symptoms got a bit worse, so my niece brought her back to the ER the next day.
They tested her again (this is her FOURTH test), and she finally tested positive, so she was admitted and treated.

You may as well flip a coin since I had one negative and two positives, and she had three negatives and one positive all in the same time period.  :no:
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YoDoug

#153
A list of almost three hundred athletes that had adverse reactions after taking the Covid vaccines. Many fatal heart issues. Disclaimer; I have not searched for any info to validate this site, beyond their links to media reports.

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/">https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athl ... ovid-shot/">https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#154
Quote from: Newbeeee™ post_id=19431 time=1638891515 user_id=157
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=19427 time=1638889253 user_id=58A list of almost three hundred athletes that had adverse reactions after taking the Covid vaccines. Many fatal heart issues. Disclaimer; I have not searched for any info to validate this site, beyond their links to media reports.

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/">https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athl ... ovid-shot/">https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/


I saw a link the other day where a guy is keeping tabs of the world wide FIFA deaths and strokes etc (Football/Soccer).
He was at 108 deaths.....!


No MLB, NFL, NBA, or NHL deaths to report. Wonder why?

YoDoug

#155
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=19434 time=1638893328 user_id=82
Quote from: Newbeeee™ post_id=19431 time=1638891515 user_id=157
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=19427 time=1638889253 user_id=58A list of almost three hundred athletes that had adverse reactions after taking the Covid vaccines. Many fatal heart issues. Disclaimer; I have not searched for any info to validate this site, beyond their links to media reports.

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/">https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athl ... ovid-shot/">https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/


I saw a link the other day where a guy is keeping tabs of the world wide FIFA deaths and strokes etc (Football/Soccer).
He was at 108 deaths.....!


No MLB, NFL, NBA, or NHL deaths to report. Wonder why?


There has been. It's not just soccer players. All major US sports have had cases. There has also been runners, tennis players, mountain bikers, etc. The link I posted was all kinds of athletes.

I saw an article about an NHL player collapsing on the ice from a heart attack a week or two ago, after getting his second vax shot.

I read an article about a guy that was a champion free diver. Holds several world records. After he got the covid vax he was diagnosed with a heart issue and can no longer train or compete.

It seems that the sports that require the most cardio and lung capacity are the ones seeing the most issues.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#156
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport/fact-check-no-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-are-linked-to-athletes-collapsing-or-dying-from-myocarditis-idUSL1N2SK160">https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2SK160">https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport/fact-check-no-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-are-linked-to-athletes-collapsing-or-dying-from-myocarditis-idUSL1N2SK160

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#157
^ Spare me. "Fake news" "Conspiracy"

OK. I accept that.  :rolleyes:  :welcome:

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#158
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/20/fact-check-christian-eriksen-didnt-receive-covid-19-vaccine/7713275002/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 713275002/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/20/fact-check-christian-eriksen-didnt-receive-covid-19-vaccine/7713275002/

Our rating: False

The claim that Danish soccer player Christian Eriksen collapsed as a result of receiving a Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is FALSE, based on our research. The director of Eriksen's club team, Inter Milan, said Eriksen had never received a coronavirus vaccine.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#159
^ He didn't die, btw, and is fine now...

YoDoug

#160
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=19438 time=1638894027 user_id=82https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport/fact-check-no-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-are-linked-to-athletes-collapsing-or-dying-from-myocarditis-idUSL1N2SK160">https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2SK160">https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport/fact-check-no-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-are-linked-to-athletes-collapsing-or-dying-from-myocarditis-idUSL1N2SK160


OOH they said "Fact Check" at the beginning of the article, you got me. They don't give any valid explanation for the rise in incidents. They only stick the talking point "no causation" while ignoring or dismissing the corelating data.

Again VAERS data. Over the past two decades there have been approximately 100 annual reports of heart issues after getting a vax, including all regular flu vax and others. Then this year there is magically over 15000 reports.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/myo-pericarditis">https://openvaers.com/covid-data/myo-pericarditis

15000 out of the hundreds of million mRNA vax given doesn't seem like much. However, if you consider it in light of the AHA study I previously linked, those 15000 are just the extreme. According to the AHA study a whole lot of people have gotten heart/cardiac damage from the vax, just not all that extreme. However it will manifest in a sharp increase in heart/cardiac issues over the next decade. The medical establishment however will just claim that people got sicker from 2020 lockdowns and deny it was from the vax.

YoDoug

#161
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=19443 time=1638894755 user_id=82https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/20/fact-check-christian-eriksen-didnt-receive-covid-19-vaccine/7713275002/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 713275002/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/20/fact-check-christian-eriksen-didnt-receive-covid-19-vaccine/7713275002/

Our rating: False

The claim that Danish soccer player Christian Eriksen collapsed as a result of receiving a Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is FALSE, based on our research. The director of Eriksen's club team, Inter Milan, said Eriksen had never received a coronavirus vaccine.


Ahh the old one-size-fits-all liberal media approach. Hundreds of reports of athletes having adverse effects so the lib media finds one case that wasn't true and deems them all false because of it. If you look at USA today, CNN, MSNBC "fact check" articles often use this tactic.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

#162
Moreover, the Cardiac Risk in the Young (CRY) organisation, a British charity that funds medical research and supports families of young people affected by heart conditions, told Reuters they were "not aware" of any published or peer-reviewed researched into alleged links between sudden cardiac arrests in athletes and COVID-19 vaccines. "It's important to understand that young sudden cardiac death (in both sportspeople and the general population) is tragically not a new phenomenon," they said.

CRY also pointed Reuters toward data published in 2008, which showed 12 'apparently fit and healthy' young people (aged 35 and under) die in the United Kingdom every week from previously undiagnosed heart conditions (http://www.c-r-y.org.uk/statistics/">www.c-r-y.org.uk/statistics/ and here).

In 2018, prior to the pandemic, CRY announced the findings of a 10-year study, which concluded sudden cardiac death in elite footballers was more common than initially thought.

"Despite screening, cardiac conditions are still the leading cause of death in footballers," Professor Sanjay Sharma, CRY's cardiologist and a leading sports cardiologist at St George's University of London, said at the time (here).

pmartin

#163
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=19449 time=1638896564 user_id=82Moreover, the Cardiac Risk in the Young (CRY) organisation, a British charity that funds medical research and supports families of young people affected by heart conditions, told Reuters they were "not aware" of any published or peer-reviewed researched into alleged links between sudden cardiac arrests in athletes and COVID-19 vaccines. "It's important to understand that young sudden cardiac death (in both sportspeople and the general population) is tragically not a new phenomenon," they said.

CRY also pointed Reuters toward data published in 2008, which showed 12 'apparently fit and healthy' young people (aged 35 and under) die in the United Kingdom every week from previously undiagnosed heart conditions (http://www.c-r-y.org.uk/statistics/">www.c-r-y.org.uk/statistics/ and here).

In 2018, prior to the pandemic, CRY announced the findings of a 10-year study, which concluded sudden cardiac death in elite footballers was more common than initially thought.

"Despite screening, cardiac conditions are still the leading cause of death in footballers," Professor Sanjay Sharma, CRY's cardiologist and a leading sports cardiologist at St George's University of London, said at the time (here).


There you go again, trying to use "facts," and "peer reviewed" to sway opinion.

Next time back up your argument with a statement based upon what your barber said that he heard from someone else.

CNCAppsJames

#164
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=19448 time=1638895698 user_id=58Ahh the old one-size-fits-all liberal media approach. Hundreds of reports of athletes having adverse effects so the lib media finds one case that wasn't true and deems them all false because of it. If you look at USA today, CNN, MSNBC "fact check" articles often USUALLY use this tactic.


Yep. They will torture the hell out of language in order to present their narrative as fact. They will completely dismiss a fact based whatever criteria they need at the moment, often contradicting themselves in the process, and they'll torture some more lanuage while they are at it.
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