Vax mandate published today

[CNCAppsJames]

For Dan, you say The vax is working well in Ohio. Here are two graphs. the first is daily deaths for MN and Ohio. The second is vax rates by state. MN is almost 10% higher Vax rate than Ohio, yet our deaths are spiking compared to Ohio. Why doesn't the vax work as well here then?

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=sgp&areas=usa&areas=ind&areasRegional=usmn&areasRegional=usoh&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths">https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?ar ... ues=deaths">https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=sgp&areas=usa&areas=ind&areasRegional=usmn&areasRegional=usoh&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/state/minnesota">https://usafacts.org/visualizations/cov ... /minnesota">https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/state/minnesota

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[Jim at Gentex]

Ok here's one for you, Doug...
A plant-based COVID vaccine!  

https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/medicago-and-gsk-announce-positive-phase-3-efficacy-and-safety-results/">https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-r ... y-results/">https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/medicago-and-gsk-announce-positive-phase-3-efficacy-and-safety-results/

Sounds promising.
I hope the big pharma conglomerates don't squash it.  

[pmartin]

[quote="Jim at Gentex" post_id=19516 time=1639054553 user_id=83]
Ok here's one for you, Doug...
A plant-based COVID vaccine!  

https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/medicago-and-gsk-announce-positive-phase-3-efficacy-and-safety-results/">https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-r ... y-results/">https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/medicago-and-gsk-announce-positive-phase-3-efficacy-and-safety-results/

Sounds promising.
I hope the big pharma conglomerates don't squash it.  
[/quote]

Um...all pharmaceutical medications are made in plants.




Good read BTW

[YoDoug]

[quote="Jim at Gentex" post_id=19516 time=1639054553 user_id=83]
Ok here's one for you, Doug...
A plant-based COVID vaccine!  

https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/medicago-and-gsk-announce-positive-phase-3-efficacy-and-safety-results/">https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-r ... y-results/">https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/medicago-and-gsk-announce-positive-phase-3-efficacy-and-safety-results/

Sounds promising.
I hope the big pharma conglomerates don't squash it.  

Um...all pharmaceutical medications are made in plants.




Good read BTW
[/quote]

Medications may be plant derived but traditionally vaccines are grown in cells. Many decades ago those cells were harvested from aborted fetus's. That is the justification many use to declare a religious exemption from vaccines. However modern vaccines are grown in lab grown cells making that argument somewhat invalid. This plant based vaccine is different in that it is not grown in living cells.

[gcode]

My SIL has Covid. Some reason the doctor prescribed antibiotics. They don't work on a virus.

many cases of Covid evolve into pneumonia

[YoDoug]

Glenn Beck claims that FOIA docs show that Moderna had been turned down repeatedly the last few years for larger scale mRNA trials so they partnered with NIH and the "bat lady" (Chinese researcher that is now being blamed as the creator of Covid-19). This all happened before Covid-19 was in the US. There is also Video of Fauci from several years ago talking about the need for a pandemic to really be able to trial and test these mRNA technologies. Right now only the farthest right conspiracy type sites are eluding to this whole pandemic being a planned event. I would guess that with the billions of dollars being made and the massive power grab happening there will never be any real investigations to prove or disprove any of this. It will live on in the company of obscure internet conspiracies like 9/11 and faked moon landing.

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[CNCAppsJames]

Medications may be plant derived but traditionally vaccines are grown in cells. Many decades ago those cells were harvested from aborted fetus's. That is the justification many use to declare a religious exemption from vaccines. However modern vaccines are grown in lab grown cells making that argument somewhat invalid.

 :huh:

:cough:
https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/">https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covi ... ell-lines/">https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/
:cough:

[YoDoug]

Medications may be plant derived but traditionally vaccines are grown in cells. Many decades ago those cells were harvested from aborted fetus's. That is the justification many use to declare a religious exemption from vaccines. However modern vaccines are grown in lab grown cells making that argument somewhat invalid.

 :huh:

:cough:
https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/">https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covi ... ell-lines/">https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/
:cough:

The HEK293 cells were originally from a fetus, but for a few decades they have been reproduced in a lab. It no longer requires an aborted fetus to use those cells. If it required ongoing replacement of fresh cells from aborted fetus I would be 100% against it.

[mowens]

My company just announced that they have suspended the vaccine mandate because of the court injunction. If the federal mandate is reinstated the company's will be also.

Honestly, this is the result I expected. I couldn't understand people quitting in protest when this was most likely going to happen.

[CNCAppsJames]

A derivative is still a derivative. Nothing can take away from it's origin. If people are down with it for whatever reason, fine. That's between them and whomever they choose. Personally for me though, it's a hard no.

[YoDoug]

Moderna....I remember seeing early on a leaked contract (signed and dated) between them and the US Gov and it was dated a couple of months BEFORE this was all announced....

It's pretty easy to go down the rabbit hole of conspiracy if you look at the evidence. There is an awfully lot of things pointing to this being a huge China/NIH/Fauci/BillGates/Globalist plandemic.

[CNCAppsJames]

My company just announced that they have suspended the vaccine mandate because of the court injunction. If the federal mandate is reinstated the company's will be also.

Honestly, this is the result I expected. I couldn't understand people quitting in protest when this was most likely going to happen.

I had a couple of friends in that situation. I told them to "ride it out". And no matter what "DO NOT QUIT for ANY reason." Make them do something. Have a plan, but force their hand. It's the ONLY way to maintain leverage. They didn't listen.

Those companies ramming that $#!+ down their employees throat... they should be ashamed of themselves.

[Incogneeto]

Moderna....I remember seeing early on a leaked contract (signed and dated) between them and the US Gov and it was dated a couple of months BEFORE this was all announced....

It's pretty easy to go down the rabbit hole of conspiracy if you look at the evidence. There is an awfully lot of things pointing to this being a huge China/NIH/Fauci/BillGates/Globalist plandemic.

Definition of conspiracy??? There's way too many facts out there which show this is planned.
Gates is the mouthpiece - the enabler IMHO.
The responsibility for the actual bug lies with Fraudchi, Peter Daszak of Eco Health and Chy-Na.
10bucks says money/funding came from the ECO Health (UK) who are leading the world with the coordinated response to it all.

  I believe the NIH (Fauci) has you waaaay out Banked.

[thad]

I've been home from work sick since Wednesday. Kind of a weird cold/flu thing. No sneezing, no runny nose, no fever, no sore throat, and no real cough to speak of. If I coughed for the heck of it,  there was a little bit of phlegm, but I wasn't involuntary coughing like some bugs cause. Sinus pressure (?) making my head feel crappy and feeling generally wore down were the main issues. They were mild, but I knew I caught something. Also achey muscles,  though  it was more like sharp, jabbing pains than a dull ache. Weird. Anyway, work said I need to show a negative rapid covid test before I can go back to work. I told them Friday that I would likely return on Monday.  I did the home test last night and the results were positive.  I'm not sure what to make of that but I have an appointment scheduled for tomorrow for the PCR test at CVS. We'll see how that goes.

My cough has become more frequent throughout the day today,  but other than that, all things considered, I feel pretty good. I know my energy isn't 100% and I get a little winded going up and down the stairs, but I don't feel sick. So that's good.

[thad]

Forgot to add that my O2 level has been between 95-97% the whole time.