Vax mandate published today

[CNCAppsJames]

Also like the surveys that say "If you were governor for a day where would you cut government waste? Public Safety, Education, or Infrastructure?" And those are your choices.

[thad]

When somebody says "follow the science" today, what they REALLY mean is they want you to follow and agree with THEIR so-called "science". And if you dare not tow THEIR line, you're branded a "..... denier" and ostracised.

The same goes for the "5 things you need to know about ......." articles. They don't want to present all the info and let you decide. The dem party and liberal media act like Orwell's 1984 is their playbook and they are forming their Ministry of Truth right before our eyes.

Yup. Or "Here's what you need to know..."  

[Shazam/TPP]

or anything Fauci says... if his lips are moving, he's lying (disclaimer IMHO)

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

Cleveland Clinic saying beds are near capacity from mostly unvaccinated covid patients.

(Carry on)

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

So what to do? (Santa Claus isn't the only one 'coming to town')

Get vaccinated plus booster especially if over age 50
Take 4,000 to 6,000 I.U.'s of vitamin D3
Take plenty of vitamin C
Take at least 100 mcg of vitamin K2 (MK-7)
Take 25mg of zinc (if sick, take 50mg twice a day)
Take a multi vitamin mineral mens 50+ (mine has 24 mg zinc, so no additional zinc for me)
Get plenty of rest
Exercise (ok, I'm too lazy)
Eat a healthy diet
Limit alcohol use (drink moderately)
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Any other ideas?

[pmartin]

Limit alcohol use?

REPORTED

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

Limit alcohol use?

REPORTED

 

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

https://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/cleveland-clinic-hospitals-nearing-capacity-amid-surge-of-unvaccinated-covid-19-patients">https://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/ ... 9-patients">https://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/cleveland-clinic-hospitals-nearing-capacity-amid-surge-of-unvaccinated-covid-19-patients

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/cleveland-clinic-nearing-capacity-due-to-surge-of-unvaccinated-patients">https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/con ... d-patients">https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/cleveland-clinic-nearing-capacity-due-to-surge-of-unvaccinated-patients

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

Everyone will have caught it 10 times by the new year....

Herd immunity baby!

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

https://www.ideastream.org/news/cleveland-clinics-icu-staff-share-their-frustrations-with-every-bed-full-of-covid-19-patients">https://www.ideastream.org/news/clevela ... 9-patients">https://www.ideastream.org/news/cleveland-clinics-icu-staff-share-their-frustrations-with-every-bed-full-of-covid-19-patients

The vast majority of those in the ICU are unvaccinated, said Andrea Pacetti, a Cleveland Clinic spokesperson.

https://m.facebook.com/Cleveland19News/videos/heres-how-many-covid-19-cases-at-the-cleveland-clinic-were-in-unvaccinated-patie/1554881054874464/">https://m.facebook.com/Cleveland19News/ ... 054874464/">https://m.facebook.com/Cleveland19News/videos/heres-how-many-covid-19-cases-at-the-cleveland-clinic-were-in-unvaccinated-patie/1554881054874464/

[DUM1]

https://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/cleveland-clinic-hospitals-nearing-capacity-amid-surge-of-unvaccinated-covid-19-patients">https://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/ ... 9-patients">https://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/cleveland-clinic-hospitals-nearing-capacity-amid-surge-of-unvaccinated-covid-19-patients

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/cleveland-clinic-nearing-capacity-due-to-surge-of-unvaccinated-patients">https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/con ... d-patients">https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/cleveland-clinic-nearing-capacity-due-to-surge-of-unvaccinated-patients

just think of all the new hospitals or covid units that could have been built all over the world with the tens of billions given to big pharma and advertising

lost count of the billions they say they have given big pharma

[DUM1]

the reports say not fully vaccinated ....
so that the new normal ? didn't get the third jab and so on "not fully vaccinated" status they are referring to?

[CNCAppsJames]

If somebody merely questioned either the validity of the % of beds taken up by "un-vaxxed" or the reasons the beds are taken in Cleveland would one have insults hurled at them?

Asking for a friend.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

If somebody merely questioned either the validity of the % of beds taken up by "un-vaxxed" or the reasons the beds are taken in Cleveland would one have insults hurled at them?

Asking for a friend.

CC has vaccination records of all Ohio patients. It isn't difficult at all for them to analyze the data. Are they fudging the truth? I hope not. CC is rated the #1 cardiac care hospital in the US. #2 overall (Mayo Clinic MN #1). I doubt they are "pulling the wool" over our eyes. Lets get rationale here, James.

My doctors are CC. They have a 'My Chart' online app where they have all your info, upcoming appts, bill payments, test results, everything.

When I go there and click on vaccination status, they show where and when I got vaccinated. All info there. They get it from the state of Ohio records.

So, they know if a patient is vaccinated or not and they don't ask them. They look up the Ohio vac record on them.

In that video, the majority of breakthrough cases of people getting really sick and/or dying are from 65+ with immune-dyficencies. The majority (appr. 90%) of healthy people getting really sick and/or dying are unvaccinated.

That is the data the Cleveland Clinic has accumulated. Mostly the state of Ohio - a small slice of the country, but a fairly large sample size.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

the reports say not fully vaccinated ....
so that the new normal ? didn't get the third jab and so on "not fully vaccinated" status they are referring to?

Booster shots replenish covid fighting antibodies.

For otherwise healthy individuals, those at most risk are classified as "naive". Naive means that individual has 1. not been vaccinated and 2. never got infected with covid-19. Hence, they have no covid fighting antibodies ready for battle. When catching covid, their bodies start mobilizing their defense and begin creating antibodies - but it takes time. Their bodies defense needs time to ready their defenses.

A majority get through just fine. Some do not.

I think "fully vaccinated" term has now been updated to include booster shots, as the first 2 series vax wanes over time. Will we need boosters periodically? As of now, we just don't know. Many vaccines remain robust after 3 series, like measles and other diseases. Some need boosters (like flu shots sort of...flu shots aren't vaccines by definition, but act much in the same way)