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Started by mowens, January 20, 2022, 12:05 PM

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mowens

How do they know what variant you have? None of the tests I have had distinguish between them.
"I would gladly risk feeling bad at times if it also meant that I could taste my dessert." - Data

Flycut

They just act like they know.

HTM01

Quote from: Jeff on January 21, 2022, 07:10 AMNo, you're just s sheep that believes everything you're told.



you should really think about getting professional help

Tim Johnson


QuoteI've seen plenty of tests done on so many different things that come back positive.
People will take multiple tests and get varying results every time.
I've heard the test will give you positive results even if it's the common flu.
I'm tired of all this BS.
There are people that has tested positive without taking the test.
FJB

mowens

Quote from: Flycut on January 20, 2022, 02:07 PMI beleive all these masks are causing alot of pneumonia cases.

I rarely wore a mask until I got sick.
"I would gladly risk feeling bad at times if it also meant that I could taste my dessert." - Data

Jeff

Quote from: HTM01 on January 21, 2022, 08:30 AMyou should really think about getting professional help
Don't need it.
I practice the technique called "Open your eyes".
You should try it sometime.

HTM01

Quote from: Jeff on January 21, 2022, 10:07 AMDon't need it.
I practice the technique called "Open your eyes".
You should try it sometime.
yeah right  the statement "Vax,masks and boosters don't do jack shit. Israel is proof of that."

open your eyes

"the Earth is not flat"

MIL-TFP-41

Not only does nothing work, nothing will ever work.
Lets say, just for the fun of it, that the vaccine was 100% effective against a particular variant. Lets also say you were able to give the jab to the entire human population.

Covid would still be here, infecting with new variants. It infects more than humans. So you would have to jab every bat, monkey, lion, dog etc, etc, etc.

It will be with the human race till the end of time. I tried saying this when this whole shit show started, when we were told that the virus could be eradicated. It will never happen. Best we can do is to learn with it.

Incogneeto

Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on January 21, 2022, 11:39 AMNot only does nothing work, nothing will ever work.
Lets say, just for the fun of it, that the vaccine was 100% effective against a particular variant. Lets also say you were able to give the jab to the entire human population.

Covid would still be here, infecting with new variants. It infects more than humans. So you would have to jab every bat, monkey, lion, dog etc, etc, etc.

It will be with the human race till the end of time. I tried saying this when this whole shit show started, when we were told that the virus could be eradicated. It will never happen. Best we can do is to learn with it.

Would be easier to understand if we knew Exactly what Fauci was funding in Wuhan.

Gain Of Function for what virus?

This was not a Natural event. From some Fish Market....No Offense Del. ;D

Tim Johnson


QuoteNot only does nothing work, nothing will ever work.
Lets say, just for the fun of it, that the vaccine was 100% effective against a particular variant. Lets also say you were able to give the jab to the entire human population.

Covid would still be here, infecting with new variants. It infects more than humans. So you would have to jab every bat, monkey, lion, dog etc, etc, etc.

It will be with the human race till the end of time. I tried saying this when this whole shit show started, when we were told that the virus could be eradicated. It will never happen. Best we can do is to learn with it.
On the internet I saw an interview with a Japanese researcher that has worked with the corona virus for over 40 years. He stated that the virus has been around for at least as long as the human species.
FJB

thad

Quote from: mowens on January 21, 2022, 07:14 AMHow do they know what variant you have? None of the tests I have had distinguish between them.

From my understanding, they have to do certain lab work with your sample to determine the variant and they don't do that for all positive tests. That's for PCR test (the ones that get sent to a lab), obviously not for home tests.
Using MC2023

Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Newbeeeeâ„¢ on January 21, 2022, 03:28 PMThe tests (PCR/Latflow etc) do not and cannot determine the difference from cold, flu, or any variant.
The ONLY way a variant can be determined, is a full genomic sequence which is a 2week+ turnaround in a proper lab.
This doesn't happen.

That is my understanding as well.

I have a niece who works in a lab where they process PCR test results every day.
I asked her if there was any way to tell the difference between COVID-19 variants in the test results and she said no.
She said the docs can only guess at the variant by trying to narrow it down to certain common symptoms, and when the exposure took place.

This recent uptick in cases is 'assumed' to be the omicron variant, but most people don't know for sure.
"Never argue with idiots.
They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

Del.

The CDC has done a pitiful job. I read where 85% of cases are Omicron. How the fuck do they know that. Fauci should be replaced.

neurosis

QuoteAccording to National Human Genome Research Institute, "COVID-19 testing uses a modified version of PCR called quantitative polymerase chain reaction (qPCR). This method adds fluorescent dyes to the PCR process to measure the amount of genetic material in a sample."

What researchers look for is genetic material that does not match the original strain of the virus. If found, that means that the person from which the sample came is suffering from a different version or variant of the original virus.

A new test found omicron

According to Reuters, a commercial test from Thermo Fisher Scientific can both detect the presence of the virus and give testers an idea as to what variant it may be if it is not the original virus.

Time reports that "the company's test targets three different parts of SARS-CoV-2: two relatively stable regions, and the more variable spike protein."

The omicron variant will show positive matches on the two more stable regions, a pattern similar to the one from the alpha variant, but will show a mismatch on the spike protein portion.

That is how the tester knows it is likely the omicron variant.

The most common version of the virus is the delta variant, which is responsible for nearly 99% of new cases around the world.

The test for the delta variant does not show the mismatch on the spike protein, but matches all three regions, letting the tester know it is likely the delta variant.

"This happens to be good fortune that this pattern can flag the presence of omicron," Mark Stevenson, executive vice president and chief operating officer at Thermo Fisher told Time. "It's a good early warning system."
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

thad

Quote from: Del. on January 22, 2022, 06:53 AMThe CDC has done a pitiful job. I read where 85% of cases are Omicron. How the fuck do they know that. Fauci should be replaced.

According to Dr. Robert Malone, the 85% number came from the models of a group of less than credible doctors (from the UK, I believe) who stated that by such and such date, we'll likely have 85% omicron cases. They took that and reported it as if it was fact.
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