Want severe Covid, keep eating that low carb diet

Started by YoDoug, January 23, 2022, 06:52 AM

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YoDoug

Study followed 2884 hospital employees. Most were physicians. The study looked at diet and Covid severity. The study adjusted for factors such as BMI, pre-existing conditions, smokers, etc. They were fit into four diet categories, plant based, pescatarian, low carb, and standard American diet. The results were no surprise to me. Plant based eaters had 73% lower chance of severe Covid. What I did find interesting is that low carb eaters actually were higher risk than Standard American eaters. My guess is prolonged low carb eating severely depletes the gut of the needed fiber to foster a healthy microbiome and strong immune function that comes with it. The truth is out there in regards to keto/low carb, you just have to get past all the big food industry funded propaganda masquerading as studies.

https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/4/1/257



Dan_AKA_ROY23

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8003632/

7.1. KDs in COVID-19 Prevention

Obesity, and in particular visceral abdominal fat, has been indicated as an independent risk factor for worse prognosis in COVID-19, often associated with the need for intensive care [17,30,41,62]. These may be due to the impaired respiratory mechanics, increased airway resistance and impaired gas exchange [25,28,54], as well as obesity-related comorbidities [63], which appear to be directly related to the onset of complications and severe course of COVID-19. In particular, OSAS [38], metabolic syndrome, hypertension, Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) and diabetes or insulin resistance have all shown to affect COVID-19 outcome negatively [55,56,57,58]. Finally, it should not be overlooked that obesity is associated with low chronic inflammation within a state of immunological dysfunction that can lead to increased risk of allergies [64] or ineffective response against infections [35] and vaccines [65].

KDs, and specifically VLCKDs, demonstrated to induce weight loss and diabetes remission. VLCKDs are currently used in bariatric surgery preparation [12] thanks to the ability in reducing hepatic volume [11] with a subsequent improvement in intra and post-operative care. Recent findings underlined immune advantages derived from ketone bodies, such as blockage NLRP3 inflammasome [20], reduction in chronic activation of ILCs and induction of protective γδ T-cells against infections [10]. Taken together, in addition to the benefit of airway inflammation prevention by impairing the formation of lipid droplets [22], KDs could be an excellent tool to prevent the infection and stem the damage induced by COVID-19 in the fragile population affected from obesity.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

With my diet I am losing weight, blood pressure good, and diabetes in remission. I'll stick to it.

(Good find, Doug) Eating the amount of carbs you do doesn't work for me. My blood sugars would be way too high.

thad

Quote from: YoDoug on January 23, 2022, 06:52 AMMy guess is prolonged low carb eating severely depletes the gut of the needed fiber to foster a healthy microbiome and strong immune function that comes with it.

I think your guess is wrong. Low carb diets encourage plentiful fiber intake. Those are "free carbs," the ones you don't have to count when calculating your daily carb intake. So if you eat 40 carbs throughout the day and 10 of them are fiber, you only count it as 30 carbs for the day. The fiber doesn't affect your sugar level.
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YoDoug

Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 on January 23, 2022, 09:34 AMWith my diet I am losing weight, blood pressure good, and diabetes in remission. I'll stick to it.

(Good find, Doug) Eating the amount of carbs you do doesn't work for me. My blood sugars would be way too high.

Actually reducing carbs doesn't change the underlying cause of diabetes. In fact studies show that diabetic people that eat low carb diets become even more insulin resistant. It results in even higher insulin spikes when even small amounts of carbs are eaten = dangerous. There is a ton of research and evidence out there that shows plant based diets have the best success when it comes to diabetes, but you are not willing to look at it objectively.

YoDoug

Quote from: thad on January 23, 2022, 09:50 AMI think your guess is wrong. Low carb diets encourage plentiful fiber intake. Those are "free carbs," the ones you don't have to count when calculating your daily carb intake. So if you eat 40 carbs throughout the day and 10 of them are fiber, you only count it as 30 carbs for the day. The fiber doesn't affect your sugar level.

FYI, the USDA, which is funded and populated by animal product insiders, recommends 20-30 grams of fiber a day. The healthiest populations in the world with the least amount of disease eat 70-100 grams of fiber a day.

Del.

Again! I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to eat a Plant Burger

I'm all for smoking plant's though


thad

Quote from: YoDoug on January 23, 2022, 11:10 AMFYI, the USDA, which is funded and populated by animal product insiders, recommends 20-30 grams of fiber a day. The healthiest populations in the world with the least amount of disease eat 70-100 grams of fiber a day.

I didn't mean to give the impression that I thought 10 grams of carbs is a "good" amount. It was just a number I pulled out of my ass to use in my subtraction example.
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thad

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on January 23, 2022, 10:59 AMThad - have you followed Walter recently?
Lots of data showing iron overload relating to the bug?


I usually check out twitter every couple days. I gotta say that I don't understand a lot of his tweets. I'm not a doctor or scientist. He uses a lot of that terminology. I do recall him talking about iron a while back. Maybe 6-8 months ago. It's really quite a chore to keep up with it all.
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Dan_AKA_ROY23

Quote from: YoDoug on January 23, 2022, 11:08 AMActually reducing carbs doesn't change the underlying cause of diabetes. In fact studies show that diabetic people that eat low carb diets become even more insulin resistant. It results in even higher insulin spikes when even small amounts of carbs are eaten = dangerous. There is a ton of research and evidence out there that shows plant based diets have the best success when it comes to diabetes, but you are not willing to look at it objectively.

Stop. Not to me. I check my sugar levels. My levels only go to normal and stay normal if I keep the carbs way down. My doctor says it's working great for you.

I don't care what some study says. I know my own body. I test my sugar levels! (I'm repeating myself 😂)

The biggest factor for me is avoiding breads. Breads raise my sugars bigly (as Trump would say)

Dan_AKA_ROY23

Belgian champion kickboxer died of covid age 41. Vocal anti vaxxer. Left hospital to treat himself at home. Now dead.

Dude was in great shape. Probably doesn't die had he been vaxxed. No one can tell me otherwise.

Dan_AKA_ROY23


YoDoug

Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 on January 23, 2022, 04:34 PMStop. Not to me. I check my sugar levels. My levels only go to normal and stay normal if I keep the carbs way down. My doctor says it's working great for you.

I don't care what some study says. I know my own body. I test my sugar levels! (I'm repeating myself 😂)

The biggest factor for me is avoiding breads. Breads raise my sugars bigly (as Trump would say)

I will agree that breads are a huge factor for diabetes, But all carbs are not equal. That is the lie that the meat/dairy industry have perpetrated to push the low carb diets. Whole plant foods, like fruit and veggies are high in fiber. Your digestive system doesn't break down plant fiber like it does refined carbs, as in breads, pasta, etc.

YoDoug

Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 on January 23, 2022, 04:38 PMDude was in great shape.

How do you know that. Just because someone is thin and active doesn't mean health. There is a term "Gym Heart Attacks" for a reason. Many athletes eat crazy high animal protein diets and minimal carbs. They end up with Atherosclerosis of the arteries and heart damage.