Readers Reflect on the State of Australian Politics

[Incogneeto]

I think that we've reached the cocktail portion of the evening.   

Yes and No.

My Point was He was using the same thought process as My Neighbor.

He wasn't thinking when He posted it.

And My neighbor wasn't thinking when he Put 9 screws in a window screen.

[Smit]

I'm pretty sure the Durham news over the weekend shows, pretty well, that "conspiracy theory tendencies" favor no party.

While Australia and the US are different, the underlying cause to the problems of each nation and most other nations of the West Civilization are the same and it comes down to moral decadence. I see it in both parties, Left, middle, and right. I see it in churches, universities, media, business and government. Honestly, it's a struggle to keep it out of my own life. Hypocrisy runs rampent, forgiveness and grace are all but unheard of, and respect for people that disagree is a relic as rare as a steam engine.

these things don't need to be perfect to get the world and our individual countries back on track but there has to be improvement. The heyday of humanity might be behind us.

Well crap, I just noticed a big chunk of what I wanted to post didn't post. There must be a length limit on how much can be quoted.

It was a series of letters to the editor from citizens in Australia. Some of them were very thoughtful and pointed out the contrasts between our countries.

The letter that really caught my attention was a guy wrote that one family owns about half of the media companies in Australia which obviously give them a lot of power to influence the people.

I can't disagree about the moral decadence, it's everywhere. Not just here.

I personally think a big part of the moral decadence is a product the internet. The internet should be, and is in many respects, a tremendous asset. But it's also a tremendous negative. Contrast the way people talk to each other on social media as opposed to real life.

As far as the Durham news I'm not aware that much has been published. I'd like to know more if you'll share some links.

[Bruce Caulley]

Shitshow.  That's my take.

[neurosis]

Well crap, I just noticed a big chunk of what I wanted to post didn't post. There must be a length limit on how much can be quoted.

Did you click the 'expand' button? 

[Jeff]

Well I was thinking dumbass Republicans or whatever it is they call their nutty conspiracy theory party in that country.

Do you mean the "conspiracy theories" that are all coming true?
Why not the dumbsmit Democunts for covering everything up and ignoring all the bad stuff that happens to them?
If you deny that, then you're one of them.

[beej]

Well crap, I just noticed a big chunk of what I wanted to post didn't post. There must be a length limit on how much can be quoted.

It was a series of letters to the editor from citizens in Australia. Some of them were very thoughtful and pointed out the contrasts between our countries.

The letter that really caught my attention was a guy wrote that one family owns about half of the media companies in Australia which obviously give them a lot of power to influence the people.

I can't disagree about the moral decadence, it's everywhere. Not just here.

I personally think a big part of the moral decadence is a product the internet. The internet should be, and is in many respects, a tremendous asset. But it's also a tremendous negative. Contrast the way people talk to each other on social media as opposed to real life.

As far as the Durham news I'm not aware that much has been published. I'd like to know more if you'll share some links.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/feb/13/republicans-vow-get-truth-after-durham-reports-dem/

the gist of the story that broke over the weekend was that Durham revealed in a court filing against Clinton campaign attorney Sussman. That he had hired a tech firm to get data from the servers of Trump Tower while he was still running for office and even got data from the White House servers after Trump was president. the data that he got from the White House came through a backdoor channel from Georgia Tech, which was doing security work for the White House at the time.  He then doctored that information to present a narrative of Russian collusion between Trump, Alpha Bank of Russia.  All of this is where the FBI-CIA investigation started.  He then leaked it to the press that there was a FBI investigation into Trump's collusion with Russia.

Most media outlets didn't report on it,immediately, but after Slate ran with the story, that gave other outlets such as the New York Times, cover to report on it, by means of saying, "Slate is reporting that Trump is Colluding with Russia."

[gcode]

Clinton's Crimes: Worse Than We Thought
Pretty much everyone outside the Democratic Media Complex realizes that the Hillary Clinton campaign conspired with deep state operatives to jam Donald Trump at the line, but new revelations show that the Russigate/dossier/FISAgate scandal wasn't the worst thing they did by a long shot.

Special counsel John Durham's team alleged on Feb. 12 that a tech executive aligned with the Democratic Party was paid to spy on former President Donald Trump's residences and the White House when Trump was president.

Lawyers for the Clinton campaign allegedly paid the technology executive to infiltrate servers at the Trump Tower and the White House, Durham said in court filings, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to tie Trump to the Russian government. Durham's office made the claim as part of his investigation that had brought charges against Michael Sussmann, a lawyer who had worked on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign and who is currently charged with making a false statement to the FBI.

Durham alleged Sussmann "had assembled and conveyed the allegations to the FBI on behalf of at least two specific clients, including a technology executive (Tech Executive 1) at a U.S.-based internet company (Internet Company 1) and the Clinton campaign," according to a section in the court filing, titled "Factual Background."

Billing records he obtained suggest that Sussmann "repeatedly billed the Clinton Campaign for his work on the Russian Bank-1 allegations" and that the unnamed technology executive met and communicate with Mark Elias, a left-wing lawyer and operative who has filed numerous election-related lawsuits on behalf of the Democrats. Sussman previously pleaded not guilty and accused Durham of acting in a politically motivated manner.

"Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a U.S.-based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract," Durham's filing states.

The executive also "tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," the filing states, adding that the technology firm that the executive worked for "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers" for Trump's executive office.

(Hat tip: Director Blue.)

So the Clinton campaign was paying to violate wiretapping and electronic privacy laws to spy on a sitting U.S. President. I don't think I can even add up all the laws that were broken here.

If Richard Nixon tried such a stunt he'd never have gotten pardoned.

Clinton's Crimes: Worse Than We Thought

Keep one thing in mind...
this is not some right wing conspiracy blog making these statements
These are the statements of a United States Special Prosecutor

[Jeff]

this is not some right wing conspiracy blog making these statements

It doesn't matter, the dumbsmits will blindly look the other way.

[Smit]

The deep state. Yes.

[RobertELee]

These are the statements of a United States Special Prosecutor

A special prosecutor who's third cousins brother in laws sisters best friends cousins uncle met Trump 35 years ago at a restaurant. So ORANGEMANBAD!!!!

[gcode]

Please strike the facts. They might taint the jury pool

Can't make this stuff up 

Attorneys for Michael Sussmann, the former Clinton campaign lawyer charged as part of Special Counsel John Durham's investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, demanded that the court "strike" the "factual background" section of Durham's latest filing, arguing it will "taint the jury pool."

[beej]

The deep state. Yes.

not the deep state. This is the Clinton campaign. and it's not some far right qanon conspiracy, it's the court briefings from a Federal Special Prosecutor.  And we now, know, that Robert Mueller wasn't just an old man off his game. There is a reason that they couldn't find anything.

When Trump said that they were spying on him, I got to be honest, I thought it was ridiculous. But this shows that he was right. they got FISA warrants to tap the phones of Carter Page. they hacked into the computers of Trump Tower, and were even able to get inside of the computer system of Executive Office of the President of the  United States! This behavior should alarm everyone. It would definitely alarm me if someone I had voted for did this.  And to be honest, I have never believed that the election was stolen, but now, even though I still have seen no real proof, I can't help but wonder....they pulled off this Russia Collusion thing and managed to keep an investigation going through his entire presidency, and we would have never known any of this if not for Durham being appointed to investigate how it began.

[Smit]

It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

[ghuns]

It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Nah. It won't.

I have no problem believing it happened, but I see ZERO chance of anyone important being held accountable for it.

[Smit]

Nah. It won't.

I have no problem believing it happened, but I see ZERO chance of anyone important being held accountable for it.

Can't argue with that. Nobody important ever is.