Roe v Wade to be overturned!

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neurosis

Quote from: crazy^millman on May 05, 2022, 10:56 AMThis is not stopping abortions all together it is just stating that the individual states need to do their job and make the laws to control this issue not the federal government. People want to make stupid decisions about who they have unprotected sex with then guess what move to the state that allows you that freedom. Want to live in a state that has laws that don't give you that choice then move plain and simple.


This is kinda the problem that I have with this whole situation. 

I've stated plenty of times that I am and always will be pro choice. At the same time, I find having an abortion out of convenience immoral. Who am I to judge someone's morals?

Some people can't afford to move. People get stuck in what we like to call the cycle of poverty. It's a real thing. My entire family is stuck in it. That's another discussion for another time. My point is, you're never going to stop people from having unprotected sex. Make it impossible for them to terminate unwanted (could be unwanted for any reason, financial, irresponsible, what ever) and you end up with a bunch of kids that people who don't want legalized abortions, will then complain about having to pay for via welfare or what ever. These kids potentially grow up in abusive homes, raised by drug addicts, etc, etc, etc. 

I *mostly* stay out of the discussion because I have zero to bring to the table. 1) I'm not a woman 2) I'm never going to have children and never had to worry about abortions 3) I don't care if someone has an abortion as I feel that it's is absolutely NONE of my business.

On the other hand, I don't see any reasonable arguments against Alito's opinion. All I see are "my body my choice" memes.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

Quote from: RobertELee on May 05, 2022, 10:37 AMJoy Behar found the solution to stopping abortion, abstinence! Who'da thunk it!?  :rofl:



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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: neurosis on May 05, 2022, 11:25 AMWho am I to judge someone's morals?


If I stole your wallet or your car, would you judge my morals?

Honestly though, I try to avoid the conversation as well.

My personal belief is that we will all be judged by a Holy and Righteous God.
According to His Word, as I understand it, taking an INNOCENT human life is a serious matter to Him.

I don't sit in judgement of any woman who chooses to abort a pregnancy, but if asked my opinion I would defer to God's Word and ask her to consider all of her options before making that decision.

The sad part about this whole issue is that is has been politicized to the point where even suggesting alternatives to abortion gets you canceled and labeled as a Nazi.
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neurosis

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on May 05, 2022, 12:08 PMIf I stole your wallet or your car, would you judge my morals?

I would judge your actions. :lol:  For all I know, you stole them to feed your kid. 

I know that's not the point you're making. I would certainly judge a pedophile.

When it comes to abortions, I'm not a biologist. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a woman. I don't pretend to know enough to even understand whether I should be judgmental. 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

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Quote from: Jim at Gentex on May 05, 2022, 12:08 PMIf I stole your wallet or your car, would you judge my morals?

In the old days the correct response was

I'd shoot your ass and let God figure it out

today the correct response is

Sorry, I hope it's enough, do you need a ride to the liquor store??


pmartin

Quote from: gcode on May 05, 2022, 12:25 PMIn the old days the correct response was

I'd shoot your ass and let God figure it out

today the correct response is

Sorry, I hope it's enough, do you need a ride to the liquor store??



And you think that the old way was better? There has to be something in between those two examples.

Incogneeto

Quote from: pmartin on May 05, 2022, 04:36 AMYou know as well as well as I do that overturning Roe v Wade was set in stone the day that Amy Barret was sworn in.

Wrong,I had no opinion save for she was conservative. I am still torn on this issue. I want women to have a choice.
But I don't want the Government or Planned Parenthood making the choices. and there are still other choices.
When it comes to terminating a Life, It is far above my judgement or input. I drove my firstborns Mother to the clinic.
and told her I didn't want to lose our Baby. She is in her Forty's a nurse and amazing. :)

ghuns

If the Dems think abortion on demand, up to the moment of birth, is a winning issue, I say let them run on it...

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Shazam/TPP

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on May 05, 2022, 12:08 PMThe sad part about this whole issue is that is has been politicized to the point where even suggesting alternatives to abortion gets you canceled and labeled as a Nazi.

The ironic part of being called a nazi is that they would have endorsed abortion up till and murder after birth...
:sofa:  :cheers:

Dan_AKA_ROY23

Quote from: neurosis on May 05, 2022, 12:19 PMWhen it comes to abortions, I'm not a biologist. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a woman. I don't pretend to know enough to even understand whether I should be judgmental. 

Simple. Different DNA, different person.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

^^^ And by our legal system....if someone murders a pregnant woman, they are charged with double homicide.

CNCAppsJames

SCOTUS over the years has ruled when it should have stayed silent, stayed silent when it should have ruled. 

Roe v. Wade is one of those instances when they overstepped and should have never even taken the case. In order to come up with that original ruling they had to torture language legislate from the bench. 

The 2nd Amendment like Justice Thomas has stated on several occasions is an enumerated right "that has been relegated to 2nd class status". SCOTUS should take every 2a case that comes, and tell those shitbird legislators "hands off people's firearms. What part of '..shall not be infringed...' do you not get? It's plain English. Go take a remedial English class ya illiterates." Jeez! 
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Jeff

The left is going apeshit. And the "my body my choice" crowd is back and being hypocritical as ever because most of those very same people were screaming at people who didn't get the jab.

My opinion on this matter is my opinion and nobody needs to know what it is.


BrianP.

Any place that that provides abortions should receive zero tax dollars. That way anyone who objects to abortion would not be forced to fund it no matter how indirectly.

If you supported forced experimental vaccinations you have no leg to stand on with the "my body my choice".

And lastly get rid of child support from men who have no say in wether or not they sire a child. I mean fair is fair. If you have no say in the birth, according to some, then you should not have to bear the responsibility.



neurosis

Quote from: BrianP. on May 10, 2022, 10:27 AMAnd lastly get rid of child support from men who have no say in wether or not they sire a child. I mean fair is fair. If you have no say in the birth, according to some, then you should not have to bear the responsibility.

If Roe is overturned, how would that work exactly? Since *nobody* will have a choice in some States at that point.  Only the blue states eliminate child support for men? I'm assuming that the red States are the ones that are going to be flooded with poor, unwanted children.  :lol: 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.