Ballot Trafficking

[YoDoug]

because corrupt democrats control the 5 big cities in the five swing states that decide the presidential election

And the Dems also have a complicit media. If hundreds of thousand of extra R mail-in-votes started showing up in R controlled areas the Dems and the media would be all over it. There would be endless news stories, investigations, etc.

[neurosis]

And the Dems also have a complicit media. If hundreds of thousand of extra R mail-in-votes started showing up in R controlled areas the Dems and the media would be all over it. There would be endless news stories, investigations, etc.

I'm talking about legalizing it and taking advantage of it.

In Washington State, someone can walk around collecting ballots. They do it all the time in close races.  Republicans constantly complain about it while the Democrats take full advantage of it.  Every time.

[YoDoug]

I said this in the days immediately following the 2020 election, and it turns out I was right, if the Dems were able to get away with this they would no longer care about public opinion and would rule as far left commie as they want. We are seeing this everyday.

IMO, this is the single most important issue that needs to be dealt with. Gas prices, inflation, baby formula, trans-everything, etc are all the bi-product of the Dems feeling unstoppable. This is the issue that in time will make Americans choose between the figurative "live on your knees or die on your feet". Without free and fair elections we are no longer citizens, we are subjects.

[YoDoug]

I'm talking about legalizing it and taking advantage of it.

In Washington State, someone can walk around collecting ballots. They do it all the time in close races.  Republicans constantly complain about it while the Democrats take full advantage of it.  Every time.

Then what? Elections are about whoever can print the most ballots and organize the most illegal ballot traffickers? The correct answer is to enact election security measures that ensure only eligible votes are counted.

[BrianP.]

I'm talking about legalizing it and taking advantage of it.

In Washington State, someone can walk around collecting ballots. They do it all the time in close races.  Republicans constantly complain about it while the Democrats take full advantage of it.  Every time.

If the Republicans get good at it the Dems will change it. It's their solution to everything. Change it to their advantage.

Although voting is a right it is also a privilege. Unless you are elderly or handicapped you should have to get your ass out to vote. We already have absentee ballots for those that will be away and can't do in person. As far as early voting I think it's a good idea but should be limited. Something like a week tops. If you can't get to a polling place in a week then tough chit. You obviously don't have any real desire to vote.

[neurosis]

Then what? Elections are about whoever can print the most ballots and organize the most illegal ballot traffickers?

They would be about who can get the most people to vote.

We don't hear all of the complaints in Washington that I hear coming from most other places. Mail in ballots are legal. "Ballot harvesting" or what ever it's called up here, is legal. We have, or had anyway, a republican Secretary of State (2013 - 2021) who fully believed in Washington's voting system. There have been few proven cases of voter fraud. Not saying that it doesn't happen.

There have been some close elections for Seattle City Council. The progressives take FULL advantage of all options available to them and pull off last minute wins. Then the other side, rather than doing the same, sits back and complains about the tactics used to win.

Even the playing field. Probably not a popular opinion, but if you can't beat em, join em.

If the Republicans get good at it the Dems will change it. It's their solution to everything. Change it to their advantage.

It appears that the advantage for one side is to get *more* people to vote, while the advantage for the other is to get *less*.

[YoDoug]

There have been few proven cases of voter fraud. Not saying that it doesn't happen.

It's a left leaning state, they don't need to cheat to win. In MN they don't need massive voter fraud to win either. However, the evidence is showing that in the 2020 election, in about 6 states, there was enough fraudulent ballot trafficking to change the election.