Mastercam 2023 Released?

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So not a Guru

Quote from: JParis on May 31, 2022, 06:21 AMEven sometimes during the Beta cycle, things are caught that can't be addressed until a later point...it really depends on how critical it is...over the years, we have seen a couple of very late "show stoppers"....they don't happen often but every once in a while
I got the rough end of one of those! IIRC I brought a setup model in from an older version and the next time I opened the file it was empty...and it was one of the most complicated single parts I had done, up to that point :hairpull:
So, I have a solid backup system setup these days. Live & learn.

So not a Guru

Quote from: champshire on May 31, 2022, 11:32 AMI hope you are right. I will look into that and see what I can figure out.
What happens when you change the filetype dropdown to all files?

neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on May 31, 2022, 10:02 AMThe Machine Group Setup in particular... you know the backbone of every damn file we create? In concept it's great. In actuality it's a complete clusterfuck.

Do you know if they've put up any video's showing the correct workflow for this new setup?  I'd be interested in checking it out. 

I just installed the new MC today. I doubt that I'll use it live for a few months.   
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champshire

Quote from: So not a Guru on June 01, 2022, 01:27 PMWhat happens when you change the filetype dropdown to all files?

They still do not show up. It's weird, cause it's only an issue in the PDM Vault. I looked into settings in the PDM side, and don't see where I can enable or disable certain programs from accessing the vault. I am far from an expert on the matter though. Here is the link on the official forum if you want to follow along.

https://forum.mastercam.com/Topic46532.aspx

I also reported two more issues to my reseller today. If I try and verify my operations with Manual entry selected in my ops, it crashes Mastercam. I use Manual Entry as my first operation to subcall some probing and common milling ops on my machine before I get into the Mastercam work that I do. This isn't a huge deal, I am able to ghost the op and don't have to worry about it crashing verify.

Second issue is in Area Rest Roughing, it seems to ignore Silhouette as a containment boundary. The tool path generates outside of the solid faces that I select. The fix, of course, is create and select wireframe and use that as a containment. More clicks that are just a work around.

I don't know that 2023 is worth the update for me yet. Still playing with things and trying to decide. 2022 was a pretty solid release for me. It had it's quirks but not bad overall. I will program some more parts with it and see what I think before I make a decision.

Jeff

Quote from: TSmcam on May 31, 2022, 12:54 PMFor a dinosaur like me, I experienced the first version of MC for Windows. V5.0 (way back in the nineties..)

Believe me, that initial version sucked... LOL
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Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on June 01, 2022, 01:48 PMDo you know if they've put up any video's showing the correct workflow for this new setup?  I'd be interested in checking it out. 

I just installed the new MC today. I doubt that I'll use it live for a few months.   

I don't know if there is a video for that exactly, but there are tabs on the left of that menu, so I'd say that's the workflow, just follow those in order. I thought there was a short video covering the fact that setup was new.

mega

Quote from: Jeff on June 02, 2022, 03:29 AMI started near the end of V8's life cycle.

I still have my book from programming school for X2, I actually was always really happy with the X series of Mastercam,

JParis

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Quote from: mega on June 02, 2022, 04:12 AMI still have my book from programming school for X2, I actually was always really happy with the X series of Mastercam,

In my opinion, V9.1 SP2 to this very day, was the most rock solid version that has been released.

Don't get me wrong though, I wouldn't want to go back to it at this point but the version was just so darn stable and predictable.
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Quote from: JParis on June 02, 2022, 04:37 AMIn my opinion, V9.1 SP2 to this very day, was the most rock solid version that has been released.

Don't get me wront though, I wouldn't want to go back to it at this point but the version was just so darn stable and predictable.
Remember the crash-fest that was V9 or V9.1 (pre SP2)?  Holy hell it was bad.
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JParis

Yup, it could be, V9 especially

mwearne

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on May 31, 2022, 03:49 PMI caught a show stopper once on the RC. :O

I can't recall which version it was but it was somwhere between X and X9.


I submitted what I thought were several show stoppers for 2023 in beta 3/4. Guess there wasn't enough time to fix them or what I consider a show stopper actually isn't.

mega

Quote from: mwearne on June 02, 2022, 01:41 PMI submitted what I thought were several show stoppers for 2023 in beta 3/4. Guess there wasn't enough time to fix them or what I consider a show stopper actually isn't.
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Quote from: champshire on June 01, 2022, 04:36 PMI also reported two more issues to my reseller today. If I try and verify my operations with Manual entry selected in my ops, it crashes Mastercam. I use Manual Entry as my first operation to subcall some probing and common milling ops on my machine before I get into the Mastercam work that I do. This isn't a huge deal, I am able to ghost the op and don't have to worry about it crashing verify.


I am seeing this one also. Cept it doesn't crash Mastercam. In verify I get the message "unexpected error". I click Ok on that, then hit play & verify continues. But when you gotta do that 50 times to get through verifying a part, it gets old REALLY fast.

https://imgur.com/a/cxlLfhA

TSmcam

Quote from: Jeff on June 02, 2022, 04:39 AMRemember the crash-fest that was V9 or V9.1 (pre SP2)?  Holy hell it was bad.

That was nothing on the V5 release. There were times when you would start it, and it would hang, and then crash. There were graphics issues, and toolpath issues. It was a trainwreck. LOL
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Quote from: JParis on June 02, 2022, 04:37 AMIn my opinion, V9.1 SP2 to this very day, was the most rock solid version that has been released.

V9.1 SP2 was a very mature product. They weren't pushing a new release every year. I think the whole V9 product was out for almost 3 years before X came out. V9 I think was released in 2002...then the service packs, then the maintenance releases. V9.1 SP2 MR0304 comes to mind. They would fix things instead of pushing new things out the door.

Side note...I absolutely hated the V9 & earlier interface. Started with V4, then learned CADKEY sometime later. I really liked the CADKEY interface & grew to despise the "V" interface. The interface in "X" was a big improvement...but the bugs in that initial release were painful.
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