Standing in line.

[Jim at Gentex]

Something so important yet people feel like it's an imposition to stand in line for a bit....

Chalk it up to just one more reason why this country is doomed...

JM2C YMMV

Yup.
Lazy bastids...

A guy I worked with is an election volunteer and he told me he'd never seen that many young people out voting before. I'm sure it was the constitutional amendment part that was motivating the people to vote, especially the youngsters.

Reports state the election turnout was almost as many people as the presidential election.

Joking aside, that is encouraging to hear. 
As an election board member myself for more than 20 years, the younger folks who come out to vote are few and far between.
Too bad it took an amendment vote on your ballot to get the young folks motivated, but at least something got them moving.
Hopefully some who voted for the first time will now continue to vote every time they can. 

[beej]

It could have been 200,000 people registered as other than D or R. I have been registered as an independent almost my  whole life so I have not voted in many primary elections. What I find suspicious is the number of 2020 ballots in different states that only had Biden selected, no senate or congressional races.

how does that work, then? some ballots only have the 1 question on it, for the unaffiliated?

[mowens]

I've never seen that many people standing in line to vote, ever. One of the poll workers said it's the most that they've ever seen. A large percent that I saw were couples with young kids, but there were people of all stripes.

If you want ro talk about a conspiracy, how about putting a vote on a state CONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENT in a republican primary election? In August? Imo that was a clear attempt to reduce the possible opposition votes. It should have been on a general election ballot.

I think one thing that motivated people was being treated like we're stupid. That pissed me off and was a motivating factor. I stood in 104 degree heat for over an hour to cast a vote on a single issue. I wasn't alone, I'm not that special. There were thousands of people who did the same.

[beej]

I've never seen that many people standing in line to vote, ever. One of the poll workers said it's the most that they've ever seen. A large percent that I saw were couples with young kids, but there were people of all stripes.

If you want ro talk about a conspiracy, how about putting a vote on a state CONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENT in a republican primary election? In August? Imo that was a clear attempt to reduce the possible opposition votes. It should have been on a general election ballot.

I think one thing that motivated people was being treated like we're stupid. That pissed me off and was a motivating factor. I stood in 104 degree heat for over an hour to cast a vote on a single issue. I wasn't alone, I'm not that special. There were thousands of people who did the same.

there were democrat primaries too, wasn't there?

how did they treat you like you're stupid? I don't live close enough to Kansas to see the ads, but I have to admit that riles me up to, when I see that kind of stuff.

[Smit]

Interesting numbers there were 900,000 total votes (yes or no) for the abortion bill, but 200,000 less for governor or senate seats.  200,000 people only made that 1 decision. And the measure lost by 160,000 votes. It would be interesting to know of those 200k votes what the split was far and against.

I'm not calling this a conspiracy I just find it fascinating that so many came out to the polls but didn't vote for any people.

This was a big deal in Kansas. The sponsors of the proposed constitutional amendment chose August for the vote because the turnout is usually quite low and definitely mostly republican but when the Republicans on the supreme court overturned Roe vs Wade it woke everybody up.

I voted the Republican ballot and it was pretty damn hard to vote for anybody on it. Pretty much like the general election on steroids, voting for the lesser of even worse evils.

how does that work, then? some ballots only have the 1 question on it, for the unaffiliated?

I think so. Republicans can't vote Dem primary and visa versa. Independents here can't vote either.

Joking aside, that is encouraging to hear. 
As an election board member myself for more than 20 years, the younger folks who come out to vote are few and far between.
Too bad it took an amendment vote on your ballot to get the young folks motivated, but at least something got them moving.
Hopefully some who voted for the first time will now continue to vote every time they can. 

I think the lessons of the last 6 or so years have shown people that voting does indeed matter. Very much.

If this country is in risk of being "doomed" it's not because people don't stand in a line. It's because so many people choose not to vote at all even though it's so easy to do nowadays. They let the extremists vote for what they want. And the extremists do vote, very reliably, for extremists.

Now if you do feel you're extra patriotic because you stand in a line I think that's just fine, go for it.

how did they treat you like you're stupid? I don't live close enough to Kansas to see the ads, but I have to admit that riles me up to, when I see that kind of stuff.

As mowens said, scheduling it for the August primaries instead of the general election was an attempt to sneak it in there. And there was also a whole bunch of misleading "information" being distributed.

[beej]

I voted the Republican ballot and it was pretty damn hard to vote for anybody on it.

So....you are a registered Republican now???

[Del.]

A guy I worked with is an election volunteer and he told me he'd never seen that many young people out voting before. I'm sure it was the constitutional amendment part that was motivating the people to vote, especially the youngsters.

Reports state the election turnout was almost as many people as the presidential election.

What was the constitutional amendment about?

[beej]

As Justice Scalia use to say, "It doesn't say anything about abortion one way or another in the consitution but if you want abortion, convince your fellow citizens and make a law!"

I guess that's what they did.

[Smit]

So....you are a registered Republican now???

In Kansas if you want your vote to have any meaning at all you have to vote in the Republican primary. Dems have very little chance in winning in the general election except in a very few instances.

In my case I vote for the lesser of the 2 extremists.

[mowens]

Yeah, there were. I was wrong. I still think putting it on the primary ballot was underhanded.

There were ads that spout all kinds of warnings about all of terrible that would happen. Making claims that are correct, technically, but not in practical application. "The ammendment doesn't do that". No but it opens the door for lawmakers to do that. Why else amend the constitution?
I don't know I'm just glad it's over for now.

[beej]

In Kansas if you want your vote to have any meaning at all you have to vote in the Republican primary. Dems have very little chance in winning in the general election except in a very few instances.

In my case I vote for the lesser of the 2 extremists.

I knew you'd come around eventually. was it my convincing arguments or my undeniable charm that brought ya to it?

[Smit]

I knew you'd come around eventually. was it my convincing arguments or my undeniable charm that brought ya to it?

Definitely your charm. 

[mowens]

What was the constitutional amendment about?

A couple of years ago the state supreme court ruled that the Kansas constitution included a right to an abortion. The proposed amendment stated that the constitution did not include that right and that lawmakers could ban abortions completely for any reason, including for cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother.

[Del.]

A couple of years ago the state supreme court ruled that the Kansas constitution included a right to an abortion. The proposed amendment stated that the constitution did not include that right and that lawmakers could ban abortions completely for any reason, including for cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother.

So what was the result of the vote.

Personally I'm against total abortion bans.

[mowens]

It was about 60-40 against. I'm with you Del. That was the part I couldn't accept.