Standing in line.

[Del.]

It was about 60-40 against. I'm with you Del. That was the part I couldn't accept.

I think all states should vote on it and not the courts or legislative branches.

[Incogneeto]

I voted the Republican ballot and it was pretty damn hard to vote for anybody on it. Pretty much like the general election on steroids, voting for the lesser of even worse evils.

yes , there have been reports of established Democrats switching and voting .

To Split the Vote and weaken the Republican choices.


You're a Smarty Smit.

[neurosis]

yes , there have been reports of established Democrats switching and voting .

To Split the Vote and weaken the Republican choices.


You're a Smarty Smit.

I think it's worse than that. Aren't Dems running ads supporting pro-Trump far right candidates in order to lessen the chance of Republicans getting elected? 

For a party that keeps screaming about "Democracy", it seems as though that don't have an issue with certain types of election tampering.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/01/democrats-risky-meddling-gop-primaries-00048962

"As former members of Congress and the Cabinet, we oppose any practice that intentionally elevates election deniers," the letter reads. "And as members of the Democratic Party, we are dismayed by the recent practice of Democratic organizations intervening in Republican primaries to promote candidates who deny the outcome of the last presidential election."

It goes on: "These destructive primary tactics aim to elevate Republican candidates who Democrats hope they can more easily beat in November. But it is risky and unethical to promote any candidate whose campaign is based on eroding trust in our elections. We must stop this practice, and stop today."

[Incogneeto]

I think all states should vote on it and not the courts or legislative branches.

And I think only women should vote on it.

Therefore, it would be well decided among those affected.

It's great guys have a viewpoint but it's not your body.

Kinda like your wife telling you to shorten your dick an Inch and get a Vasectomy.

You would say "WUT"?

If my wife was raped, I would only have the choice to Respect her wants.

[Incogneeto]

I think it's worse than that. Aren't Dems running ads supporting pro-Trump far right candidates in order to lessen the chance of Republicans getting elected? 

For a party that keeps screaming about "Democracy", is seems as though that don't have an issue with certain types of election tampering.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/01/democrats-risky-meddling-gop-primaries-00048962

Dayumm !! sometimes you are Quicker than a 17 year old on a Prom date.

You win.

I was waitin for Smit to scream "Conspiracy"!!!

[neurosis]

Dayumm !! sometimes you are Quicker than a 17 year old on a Prom date.

You win.

I was waitin for Smit to scream "Conspiracy"!!!

I was listening to a podcast the other day and they were saying that some of the Dems were starting to get concerned that this may end up back firing on them.  

As much as I'm *not* a fan of these far right Republican candidates, (yea, RINO blah blah blah) it would serve the Dems right if they got pummeled with Trump supporters.

[Smit]

I was listening to a podcast the other day and they were saying that some of the Dems were starting to get concerned that this may end up back firing on them.  

As much as I'm *not* a fan of these far right Republican candidates, (yea, RINO blah blah blah) it would serve the Dems right if they got pummeled with Trump supporters.

I've heard that goes on. But in my case I did vote for the lesser of the two (or three) evils. Just like in the general election. As an example I voted for Republican Derrick Schmidt because his opponent was a literal lunatic. And in the state of Kansas any Republican who wins the primary has a good chance of winning the general election. Republicans vote for republicans. That's just reality. And there are a LOT or Republicans in Kansas.

Something I think we've all noticed in recent years is the idea of someone who is so bad they don't have a chance of getting elected get put into a position where they actually do win. Which is probably what your podcast was suggesting, right?

Regardless, until Republicans start showing remorse for widespread gerrymandering, crying about fraud when they lose, spreading misinformation, outright lies, and all the other dirty politics they're into I'm not going to be too concerned about them whining about others playing "dirty politics."

Politics is a dirty business in this country. I'd like to see it get cleaned up but we're certainly not trending in that direction are we?

[neurosis]

Something I think we've all noticed in recent years is the idea of someone who is so bad they don't have a chance of getting elected get put into a position where they actually do win. Which is probably what your podcast was suggesting, right?

Yes, that's some of what they're talking about.

This is going on here in Washington State, and it's working.  They ran ads for a guy that nobody in Washington State ever heard of and he's winning the primary over a guy who would actually stand a chance to win the seat in the mid terms.  The guy who they are bringing attention to is a total wack job and has no business in politics. He might as well be another MTG or Boebert.  The guy that's now getting beat is a very good politician and it would benefit the State if he won that seat but he's a Republican and the Dems in the State don't want to lose this race.

edit: to add - the guy who's winning the primaries doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning the mid-terms in Washington State. The other guy does. 

[neurosis]

Politics is a dirty business in this country. I'd like to see it get cleaned up but we're certainly not trending in that direction are we

No, it's definitely not.

 I've pretty much lost all hope that either party is going to do anything helpful or worth while for this Country in my lifetime. 

[mowens]

As I've said many times, politics today is just choosing which color rope you want to be hung with.

[CNCAppsJames]

What I find suspicious is the number of 2020 ballots in different states that only had Biden selected, no senate or congressional races.

This is what MANY people that posess more than 1 functioning brain cell or have some basic critical thinking skills think is suspicious as well. 

[CNCAppsJames]

Abortions ALWAYS should have been decided by voters/legislation rather than by Court Justices Jesters.

[Jim at Gentex]

yes , there have been reports of established Democrats switching and voting .

To Split the Vote and weaken the Republican choices.

And THAT is exactly why open primaries are a bad idea.
People deliberately using their primary vote to game the system is unfair to BOTH parties.

[Smit]

The guy that's now getting beat is a very good politician and it would benefit the State if he won that seat but he's a Republican and the Dems in the State don't want to lose this race.

edit: to add - the guy who's winning the primaries doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning the mid-terms in Washington State. The other guy does. 

At least he has a chance. (An observation: if the people vote for a whacko in the primary what does that say about them? They must like what they hear?)

Meanwhile, across the aisle, in a red state the Republicans would just gerrymander the districts so their candidate would win and they wouldn't give one tiny shit if a good Democrat who would be a better representative of the district didn't make it to office because of it.

Sorry if that doesn't sound sympathetic.

I read an editorial a while ago from a guy who lived in a gerrymandered district. It was called "If you can't beat them join them" or something like that. Anyway, since the Republicans pretty much made his vote in a Democrat primary worthless he joined the republican party and is working to bring the party back to center. That makes a lot of sense. If it's useless to vote as a Democrat then moderates should join the Republican party and demand candidates who represent them. If enough people do this they can send the extremists back to the fringe where they belong and the entire country would benefit.

[Tim Johnson]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/03/trump-endorsed-candidates-are-170-10-in-2022-after-tuesdays-primaries/