Student Loan Forgiveness

[mkd]

[CNCAppsJames]

They banked on everyone being pro-life.  Not sure how that worked out for them?

That's part of the equation, but I think the bigger issue for them is they (mistakenly as usual) didn't bank on the left framing the narrative the way they did.

So... depending on how the question is framed, the vast majority of people could be considered "Pro-Life". When the question posed is "Do you support a woman's choice to terminate a pregnancy for any reason whatsoever up until the moment of birth?" That question from nearly every survey I've ever seen  ranged from 75% to 90% the answer was "no". Now when the question has qualifiers such as the EXTRAORDINARILY RARE case of a pregnancy that resulted from either rape or incest pretty much the inverse was the result 75% to 90% the answer was "yes" or abortion was supported in those cases. Another high "yes" result was if the pregnancy had the high likelihood of medical related complications such as but not limited to the life of the mother being in danger (also a very rare case), or the high probability of there being severe birth defects.

But the Republicans that namage to get on TV are sofa king stupid they fail in nearly every case to preset their position in a way that makes it understandible.

The fact of the matter is well over 90% of the abortions performed in the USA are abortions for reasons other than rape, incest, medical reasons and/or reasons of life or death. That is the point republicans fail to expose time and time again. This time, it may cost them dearly and in ways they can't even begin to imagine.

Not only should Republicans have made that point, they should have called out ALL the politicians STILL in office since Roe v. Wade was legislated from the SCOTUS bench that CONGRESS has had 50 years to put abortion into legislation to hedge their bets on a future court overturning it on Constitutional grounds.

As usual politicians get a pass from the American people, SCOTUS takes a unrighteous beating, and the left comes out smelling like a rose instead of the steaming pile of bovine excrement they are.

[CNCAppsJames]

https://reason.com/2022/08/25/will-bidens-student-loan-debt-cancellation-plan-hold-up-in-court/

This was a salient quote,

Should Biden's plan ever land in federal court, one of the big questions for the judiciary will be whether the COVID-19 pandemic qualifies as a national emergency for the purposes of the statute.

Looking at the last 12 years (which could take into account a fair chunk of the GWOT if the defense were so inclined as to point to it), average student loan debt has only increased $5k which is lower than inflation by about $1,100-ish.

Should be interesting to see how it shakes down since Congress has the authority to do this and POTUS does not at least according to the US Constitution which apparently matters less and less when feelings are involved.

[mowens]

Yeah, when they said in their proposed amendment that the legislature would be able to regulate abortion for any reason, they then went on to specifically include rape, incest or the life of the mother. I think that caused a lot of people who maybe weren't sure to swing over to no side. I might not have voted at all if they hadn't included that verbiage.

[mowens]

My daughter got mad because  we wouldn't get student loans. Her mom and I worked two jobs to pay for her education. She's now glad that we didn't and admitted that all of her friends went shopping with their student loan money and she was mad because she couldn't go.

[crazy^millman]

My daughter got mad because  we wouldn't get student loans. Her mom and I worked two jobs to pay for her education. She's now glad that we didn't and admitted that all of her friends went shopping with their student loan money and she was mad because she couldn't go.

Know guys who went surfing for 6 month to a year on their student loans. Got involved in drugs and ended up dead before they were 25. Guess who got stuck with that debt?

[Del.]

The people forgiven any amount of student loans should be taxed on that as income.  Every other forgiven debt is already taxed currently. 

[CNCAppsJames]

The people forgiven any amount of student loans should be taxed on that as income.  Every other forgiven debt is already taxed currently. 

It will per the tax code. Every single person I have spoken to about this has the same look on their face when I tell them that little nugget of truth.

It closely resembles this;



Clueless sheep.

#ThereIsNoSuchThingAsAFreeLunch

[JParis]

The people forgiven any amount of student loans should be taxed on that as income.  Every other forgiven debt is already taxed currently. 

Nope...in the tax plan Trump had passed, Student Loan foregivness is non-taxable through 2025

When my wife had hers forgiven becasue of her disability, i dreaed the taxs but it was not taxable.

Though some states, 38 I think, may tax it.

[CNCAppsJames]

Nope...in the tax plan Trump had passed, Student Loan foregivness is non-taxable through 2025

When my wife had hers forgiven becasue of her disability, i dreaed the taxs but it was not taxable.

Though some states, 38 I think, may tax it.

Mine is one of them.

[JParis]

Mine is one of them.

James,

Kalifornistan would tax a daisy if they could only figure out how   

[CADCAM396]

I could go for some Daisy (Duke)
 they would have to un cancel the dukes of hazzard to tax dem dar daisy

[CNCAppsJames]

James,

Kalifornistan would tax a daisy if they could only figure out how 

They actually tax air so there's that.



Some of the biggest pieces of shit on the planet tax and rule my state.

1 of my kids now is gone from the state. As of tomorrow, it will be 2 and 2 grand kids plus the 1 on the way will be gone from the state also. THe ones tomorrow are moving ot a state where my company has an office AND is in a state I would actually move to.

One step closer to leaving this democrap run shithole for good.

[Del.]

Nope...in the tax plan Trump had passed, Student Loan foregivness is non-taxable through 2025

When my wife had hers forgiven becasue of her disability, i dreaed the taxs but it was not taxable.

Though some states, 38 I think, may tax it.

May be right but I do know like credit card debt that is forgiven is taxable as income.