Blade Expert video

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[TSmcam]

It is an expensive module isn't it? I seem to recall it was.

Seems quite capable.

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It is an expensive module isn't it? I seem to recall it was.

Seems quite capable.

When it was first introduced it was about $40K, now it's about $10K

[TSmcam]

When it was first introduced it was about $40K, now it's about $10K

Wow, big price drop. I wonder if they dropped it because it wasn't selling?

TS has a very similar module. Very capable. I tested it on a couple of impellers and it worked great.

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Wow, big price drop. I wonder if they dropped it because it wasn't selling?

TS has a very similar module. Very capable. I tested it on a couple of impellers and it worked great.

That was back when it was first introduced. It may have been Moduleworks who was setting the price back then

It's included in the HLE now. I played with it in the 2022 HLE
Pretty cool stuff.

I've never  had a need for Blade Expert, though I've had a few projects where Port Expert
would have been usefull

[TSmcam]

That was back when it was first introduced. It may have been Moduleworks who was setting the price back then

It's included in the HLE now. I played with it in the 2022 HLE
Pretty cool stuff.

I've never  had a need for Blade Expert, though I've had a few projects where Port Expert
would have been usefull

The TS version made short work of the impellers I tested. They also have a Port module too (plus now they're adding Robots and Grinding). The Port module works well. Like you, I have been more in need of Port machining than the Impeller machining module.

Thats good that it is included in the HLE. Good way to check it out, and see how capable it is.

[mkd]

A former coworker made a titanium impeller with Hypermill in the time it to took me to do one in aluminum.
 I'm still butthurt.

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A former coworker made a titanium impeller with Hypermill in the time it to took me to do one in aluminum.
 I'm still butthurt.

It's a poor workman who blames his tools    

sorry, I had to say that..
but seriously, hyperMill will whip Mastercams butt in some 5x applications... if only I could figure out how to use it
 

[CNCAppsJames]

Doing an impeller in PowerMill took me about 80% less time. I had it on the machine in 20 minutes in PowerMill. With ZERO training.

My lack of skill and Mastercam's extremely useful error messages were the cause.

[mkd]

It's a poor workman who blames his tools    

sorry, I had to say that..
but seriously, hyperMill will whip Mastercams butt in some 5x applications... if only I could figure out how to use it
 

Exactly why the butthurt set in. We both used Hypermill.
 I just used the modules that step in towards the floors. Fine for aluminum where wearing the tip out is not a concern.
 Coworker figured out how to trocoidal mill the rough pass near net. Then went directly to finishing.
 Basically same cycle time as my aluminum part. The fact that the mill he used cost double, probably had minimal to no effect.

[CNCAppsJames]

I think HyperMill needs to change their name to HyperShill.

That is all.

[mkd]

I think HyperMill needs to change their name to HyperShill.

That is all.

Come to the dark side..we have cookies

[CNCAppsJames]

That's a negative ghost rider

Those guys won't even ask for help on a Post Processor/Tolerance issue. HyperShill will use old/outdated information on a brand new Matsuura, then when the customer asks HyperShill guy why their Matsuura isn't performing as expected, why it's gouging, etc... HyperShill guy says "our stuff works great on <insert cometitor's equipment>, I don't know what the problems is." And because HyperShill guy fields all the questions, we never hear about it until they've bought a new competitor's machine. WE know our machines better than any CAD/CAM shill.

WE know performance characteristics, we know the best tolerance settings, we know the correct high speed modes for a given machining strategy, etc...

Besides all that, I seriously have all the CAD/CAM tools I need to make our machines perform exceptionally well between PowerMill, Esprit, Mastercam and a few others (in no particular order).

People generally don't need better CAM systems, they simply need to master the one they've got.

[mkd]

The German controls do so well with feed rate planning and simple 5 axis modes it makes it real easy for CAM companies. Sounds like that laziness doesn't translate well with the ultimate in configurable controls .. FANUC. So many different levels of OEM and configurable options makes it a minefield (bad metaphor, probably) for developers.
 Sounds like matsuura would do well to partner up with Hypermill and work out the kinks.
 For a one and done 5 axis CAM software it looks pretty sweet,. If only I was good at it.
 It's verification capability exceeds in some aspects of vericut. Guy I work with says he proves out the simulation he lets it rip and goes home.

[CNCAppsJames]

The German controls do so well with feed rate planning and simple 5 axis modes it makes it real easy for CAM companies. Sounds like that laziness doesn't translate well with the ultimate in configurable controls .. FANUC. So many different levels of OEM and configurable options makes it a minefield (bad metaphor, probably) for developers.
 Sounds like matsuura would do well to partner up with Hypermill and work out the kinks.
 For a one and done 5 axis CAM software it looks pretty sweet,. If only I was good at it.
 It's verification capability exceeds in some aspects of vericut. Guy I work with says he proves out the simulation he lets it rip and goes home.

Up front laziness NEVER translates into excellence.

Programmers generally speaking won't be bothered with taking advantage of a machine's capabilities unless SOMEBODY does ALL the work for that, for them. There are always exceptions and I feel, we do have a lot of cusomers that have exceptional programming staff and want to not only learn, but also want take advantage of their machine's capabilities because they know it is in their best interest to do so. Raises and bonuses are often tied to productivity.

100% truth be told, Mastercam and CAMplete makes it easy peasy for us. I have gone through and created all the defaults, default operations, posts, machine and control definitions, etc.. to do that. All they gotta do is program. We can't do everything. In the cases where they need a slight tune up on a feature or some features, they will change a High Speed mode from one level to another either at the control, in CAMplete, or Mastercam and re-post.  Other than that, our stuff is good to go.

CAD/CAM is HIGHLY regional. One of Matsuura's AE's uses HyperShill. I believe they have a good relationship. Out here on the west coast... because Mastercam saturation/marketshare is so high and that being one of my two personal preferences, HyperShill makes no effort to support our common customers equitably IMHO. My job isn't to shill for CAD/CAM systems (like they apparently want), my job is to support the Matsuura product line to the absolute best of my ability. CAD/CAM... I do make it my mission to learn as much as possible about all the CAD/CAM systems I encounter in order to take advantage of the machine's full capability. Some CAD/CAM systems are more capable in this arena than others. Mastercam... is hands down without exception the absolute best at this. Mastercam's NCI file is SO rich with data I can literally overcome software deficiencies with it. PowerMill is a VERY STRONG 2nd. Their CUT files... equally as rich in data as the NCI if not more-so.

Perhaps HyperShill is equally as powerful on that front, however, because they have poisoned the relationship so badly IMHO, and since PostProcessors are such a BIG part of their revenue stream, ANYTHING that competes with that eats into their Post P{rocessr cash cow, and they are not fans of that and will aggressively fight against it regardless if it is in the best interests of THE CUSTOMER or not. I have absolutely no vested interest in CAMplete - monetraily anyway. It IS an awesome tool. It helps me do my job better. It truly does help our customers that choose to use it. That said, we (Selway) make ZERO dollars from using it, and or supporting it. Truth is, it actually COSTS my company money for us to support it in the way we do. But, it is 100% in the customer's best interest to use it which is why we do what we do and how we do it. We hope that our level of support and our expertise earns us future business opportunities and 99x out of 100x it does. HyperShill is SELF focused. At least that is what they have shown ME. They push THEIR solution because it benefits HyperShill. WE are customer focused. We will help our customers regardless of what CAM system they use AND regardless if they chose to use CAMplete or not and we'll work with ANY CAD/CAM Vendor/Reseller to give our customer's the best user experience possible. Things don't always go smoothly, or as well as we would hope... I failed in epic fashioned with neurosis a number of years ago, It happens. That is by far the exception  and not the rule.

HyperShill is very capable software. I don't post, press cycle start on the 1st run and walk away. Not because I don't trust my tools... but because I don't trust myself.