Paul Pelosi Attacked

[YoDoug]

Fair enough, 

But, I do believe that Trump spent more time around Epstein then he suggested, and it's been said that he was better friends with Epstein that he's admitted to. I'd also point out that you don't have to be on an island to do nefarious things. 

I don't disagree with this, but we had the FBI, CIA, and majority of mainstream journalists looking for a way to bring down Trump. If they could have brought him down with this they would have. Also, the whole line of it would mean brining down the Clintons and other leaders story doesn't fly with me. If they had the dirt on trump with Epstein, then Trump had the dirt on them as well. They wouldn't of tried so many other BS fabricated lies to bring down Trump if he had the dirt on them.

[BrianP.]

I've only had one drink in the last 6 months and to be honest, I think I may be done for good.

I quit 16 years ago. Don't miss it anymore. 3 best things I ever did in my life. Have my kids. Being married to my wife for 38 years. Quit drinking. The last has made me appreciate the first two much more.

[Del.]

I've been on Chantix a couple weeks to quit smoking. It's my last attempt.

[Jim at Gentex]

Fair enough, 

But, I do believe that Trump spent more time around Epstein then he suggested, and it's been said that he was better friends with Epstein that he's admitted to. I'd also point out that you don't have to be on an island to do nefarious things. 

Well as far as friendship, they were both in the Billionaire Boy's Club back in the day, so most of those guys were rubbing elbows at social events and whatnot.
Like I said, I think James Patterson probably got as close to the truth in his book about Epstein as we will likely ever know.

The fact remains, whether they were close friends or more like casual acquaintances, Trump absolutely did kick Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago and he revoked his membership.
That is a historic fact. 

After that happened, it's only natural to believe that Trump would not be one of Epstein's favorite people because of the public embarrassment that went along with that incident.
They may have even attended the same social events after that, but again, it doesn't seem like Epstein would be eager to hang out with the guy who publicly embarrassed him.

As for the nefarious acts, yes, they could and did happen anywhere.
But the island and the New Mexico ranch were the two places where the victims said the majority of abuse occurred, so the people who were actually GUESTS at those locations would fall under closer scrutiny. 

Like Doug said, if there was any way to bring Trump down because of his association with Epstein, that would have happened a long time ago.

Sorry we hijacked the thread about the attack on Paul Pelosi, and I hope he's doing ok. 

[neurosis]

After that happened, it's only natural to believe that Trump would not be one of Epstein's favorite people because of the public embarrassment that went along with that incident.
They may have even attended the same social events after that, but again, it doesn't seem like Epstein would be eager to hang out with the guy who publicly embarrassed him.

I think that the story was deeper than that.  It's rumored that there was some fighting over some real-estate and that's what caused the falling out between them. The teenage girl was one of trumps friends daughters? You would assume that most people who spent a lot of time around Epstein knew what he was up to. It doesn't surprise me that Trump would get upset with that dirt bag hitting on a friends daughter when you know that he's a pedo. 

I mean it's all speculation.  This probably belongs more in the conspiracy area because we'll likely never know the truth.  When there are that many high level people involved I would think that politics take a back seat to protecting themselves against sex trafficking participation allegations. 

Sorry we hijacked the thread about the attack on Paul Pelosi, and I hope he's doing ok. 

ahhh.. it's only the second hi-jack now.   

[TylerBeer]

I think that the story was deeper than that.  It's rumored that there was some fighting over some real-estate and that's what caused the falling out between them. The teenage girl was one of trumps friends daughters? You would assume that most people who spent a lot of time around Epstein knew what he was up to. It doesn't surprise me that Trump would get upset with that dirt bag hitting on a friends daughter when you know that he's a pedo. 

I bet Epstein hit on Trump's daughter and he got upset because that's his girlfriend man

[CNCAppsJames]

I mean it's all speculation.  This probably belongs more in the conspiracy area because we'll likely never know the truth.  When there are that many high level people involved I would think that politics take a back seat to protecting themselves against sex trafficking participation allegations.

Some high profile situations have risen to the level of being part of the public record. Very few situations have included names, some include public agencies here in the US.

Pedo enabling agencies in the US include the CIA and the FBI. All it took to get names redacted or protected from prosecution is the good 'ol "National Security" tag slapped on them or merely to "protect 'sources and methods' ".

[beej]

I bet Epstein hit on Trump's daughter and he got upset because that's his girlfriend man

https://www.citizensjournal.us/nyt-reveals-how-ashley-bidens-inappropriate-showers-with-joe-diary-made-its-way-to-project-veritas/

But you're ok with Biden who took showers with his teenager daughter?

[Smit]

https://www.citizensjournal.us/nyt-reveals-how-ashley-bidens-inappropriate-showers-with-joe-diary-made-its-way-to-project-veritas/

But you're ok with Biden who took showers with his teenager daughter?

Project Veritus? Really?

Overall, we rate The Citizens Journal Far-Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, the use of poor sources, and failed fact checks.

[beej]

Project Veritus? Really?

Overall, we rate The Citizens Journal Far-Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, the use of poor sources, and failed fact checks.

tisk, tisk, you weren't paying attention. they were quoting the New York Times. And the Ashley's Journal has been confirmed to be authentic, which is why Proj Ver. got in trouble.

[neurosis]

which is why Proj Ver. got in trouble.

It did say that Project Veritas didn't publish the diary.  I haven't read the article, but is there some proof that there was writing in it that said that Biden was showering with his teenage daughter and under what circumstances?   

That seems like something that would have been HUGE news. 

[beej]

That seems like something that would have been HUGE news.

you would think.... NYT claims to have seen the journal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/16/us/politics/ashley-biden-project-veritas-diary.html

[Smit]

Did you read the NYT article?

[beej]

Did you read the NYT article?

I did when it first came out but I am cheap and now I'm out of free articles, so I can't reference it.

[BrianP.]

That seems like something that would have been HUGE news. 

So wouldn't a laptop containing inflammatory information about a politician running for office. But we saw how that played out.