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https://thespectator.com/topic/the-fake-think-tank-that-fueled-the-russiagate-narrative/

"Musk's tweet was in response to the revelation last week (hat tip to the great Matt Taibbi for ferreting through the garbage to retrieve it) that a shadowy group called "Hamilton 68" had been doing exactly what the title of Musk's imaginary Golden Book says: accusing anyone and anything they don't like of being, or being influenced by, a Russian bot. "Instead of tracking how 'Russia' influenced American attitudes," Taibbi notes, "Hamilton 68 simply collected a handful of mostly real, mostly American accounts, and described their organic conversations as Russian scheming."

Simply in terms of volume, Taibbi estimates that Hamilton 68 "may go down as the single greatest case of media fabulism in American history. Virtually every major news organization in America is implicated, including NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post. Mother Jones alone did at least fourteen stories pegged to the group's 'research.' Even fact-checking sites like Politifact and Snopes cited Hamilton 68 as a source.""
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RobertELee

Smit has fact checked this source and determined it to be false misinformation!!

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CNCAppsJames

#LibdroolHeadsGonnaExplode

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beej

https://thefederalist.com/2023/01/31/the-astounding-saga-of-hamilton-68-illustrates-scope-of-americas-institutional-rot/

"Journalists did their part and took the bait. Bear in mind that NBC News and MSNBC have used Watts himself as a national security contributor for years, ignoring plenty of evidence that he was a dishonest propagandist using their airwaves to advance the interests of intelligence agencies. They actually used their own "disinformation" reporters to spread more disinformation.

My colleague Mollie Hemingway called this out all the way back in 2018, when the likes of Adam Schiff, Dianne Feinstein, and an astounding array of media outlets were promoting Hamilton 68.

"Hamilton 68 won't let anyone review their dashboard to determine in any way if they're tracking actual Russian propaganda bots, or just conservative Americans who, for instance, care about FISA abuse," Hemingway wrote. "Yet Hamilton 68's claims are repeated uncritically by a media that asks no questions about the methodology." (Twitter seemed to be misrepresenting its internal knowledge at the time, as well.)"

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beej

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Securing_Democracy

"Hamilton 68 Dashboard

The original iteration of the Hamilton 68 Dashboard, released in 2017, tracked 600 Twitter accounts that ASD asserted might be "linked to Russian influence," whether knowingly or unknowingly.[14][15][16][17][18] ASD did not disclose which accounts the original version of Hamilton 68 tracked, citing its desire to "focus on the behavior of the overall network rather than get dragged into hundreds of individual debates over which troll fits which role."[19][20]Responding to what ASD viewed as inaccurate reporting on its dashboard, ASD's communications director, Bret Schafer, stated in a piece published on The Daily Caller they don't specifically track automated bot accounts. Schafer noted "...that results on the dashboard are meant to be viewed in a nuanced way [...]" and that not all instances of information appearing on the dashboard were evidence of pro-Kremlin accounts or biases.[21]

The original version of Hamilton 68 was shutdown in 2018.[21]

Version 2.0 of the Hamilton 68 Dashboard, released in 2019, tracks approximately 600 Twitter social media accounts that the ASD asserts can be "directly attribute[d] to the Russian, Chinese, or Iranian governments or their various news and information channels."[22] The list of Twitter accounts currently tracked by Hamilton 2.0 has been released.[23]

In September 2017, and again in May of 2021, the group launched similar German-language dashboards focused on possible Russian influence in German politics ahead of the federal elections in those respective years.[24][25][18]

In January 2023, journalist Matt Taibbi released internal documents from Twitter related to Hamilton 68 as part of the Twitter Files. The documents show Twitter's former Head of Trust and Safety, Yoel Roth, attempted to identify the accounts tracked in the dashboard. Roth found that only 36 of the 644 accounts were registered in Russia, arguing that the dashboard used "shoddy methodology" to incorrectly label authentic accounts as "Russian stooges without evidence". ASD responded to Taibbi's release a few days later, noting that ASD had always maintained that not all of the accounts on the dashboard were controlled by Russia, despite what it described as persistent misunderstandings in the media."
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YoDoug

I don't think the mainstream media were fooled or tricked. I think they saw it as an opportunity to push their agenda. Remember, these are the same news outlets that run article after article that cite "unnamed sources" or "a source close to the investigation" and run it as fact to try to smear Trump. They are not looking for objective journalism, they are looking for anything that goes with their liberal agenda, regardless of truth or accuracy.
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beej

It's rare to get such an inside look at the inner workings of the media machine. In my opinion, what Matt Taibbi and others are doing rivals Upton Sinclair's, "The Jungle". Possibly bigger since the ramifications are bigger.
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JParis

Quote from: beej on February 01, 2023, 06:54 AMPossibly bigger since the ramifications are bigger.


I respectfully ask, what ramifications?

2/3's of the country, depending on your point of view is either asleep at the wheel or just smarter than the rest.

gcode

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on January 31, 2023, 05:52 PM#LibdroolHeadsGonnaExplode

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no they have already dismissed all Musk's Twitter info as MAGA propaganda and have declined to report
on it.
If they don't report it, it never happened.

beej

Quote from: JParis on February 01, 2023, 07:00 AMI respectfully ask, what ramifications?

2/3's of the country, depending on your point of view is either asleep at the wheel or just smarter than the rest.

I was referring to the ramifications of the corruption, not necessarily the ramifications of the discovery of it. it's yet to be determined if Americans care enough to find a solution.
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Del.

No clue what this thread is about.

Ignorance is bliss.
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mkd

Operation mockingbird is alive and well.
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CNCAppsJames

I think MK Ultra is still going hard too. Biden is DEFINITELY on LSD. Anyone ever listen to that guy when they actually let him talk?

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Jeff

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on February 02, 2023, 09:08 AMAnyone ever listen to that guy when they actually let him talk?
He hasn't talked in almost 10 years. He just rambles,mutters and stutters.
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