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Quote from: Jeff on February 27, 2023, 05:24 AMI'm 99% sure Okuma can do this with variables, I've just never had a need to so I'm not 100% sure  ;D .
juice aint worth the squeeze to have to mangle every program with variables, eh?
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Quote from: mkd on February 27, 2023, 07:49 AMjuice aint worth the squeeze to have to mangle every program with variables, eh?
Actually, my programs are so perfect there is no need for hand editing.   8)
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Quote from: Jeff on February 27, 2023, 05:24 AMWhile we're on the subject of Fanuc, do the higher-end Fanuc controls have the same input lag as the 0 models? Man it's driving me crazy when it has to wait after pressing buttons to press another.
only if it has a Winblows front end and your IT department got ahold of it. lol

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Quote from: Jeff on February 27, 2023, 05:24 AMDoesn't Fanuc have a G10 function that can write tool data? Or is that limited to tool lengths?

We use G10 to change the M19 orientation when programming right angle heads.
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Quote from: mkd on February 25, 2023, 10:10 PMFanuc still can't do tlo and R offsets inside the program while leaving the tool table unmolested.
That one has been asked and answered. There is a system variable for that;

Tool length offset value active (by variable name):
[#_TOFS[1]] = GEO
[#_TOFS[2]] = GEO WEAR
[#_TOFS[3]] = RADIUS
[#_TOFS[4]] = RADIUS WEAR
[#_TOFS[5]] = CORNER RADIUS (if applicable)
[#_TOFS[6]] = CORNER RADIUS WEAR (if applicable)
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There is a button on the Okuma mill control that we affectionately call the FSU (F$ck Sh!t Up) button. It has its uses, but it gives the user crazy abilities while the machine is running. When you turn on this button while the machine is running, even in the middle of feeding or drilling, it makes the handwheel live. When you move an axis it moves the active work offset with it for the remainder of the program, as long as the button is on. The intention of the button is to allow operators to makes quick adjustment, like Z height of a casting to to either drop offset for low stick or raise the offset for heavy stock. Another good use is to call up an indicator holder and manually sweep a part. I have never seen anything like that on a another machine and to honest, it can cause serious damage. When I worked at the distributor I saw a time where a mis-trained customer was using that button to manually move the machine, not know if they left it on the handwheel was live while machining. It was left on to the B axis and someone walked by the machine and bumped the handwheel while a massive drill was deep into a stainless part. Not a good end to that. We always trained new customers what that button was and safe usage, but they would train other employees and skip it. On the latest gen of control the button is interlocked and requires you to hold a second button to engage it.
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heidy has a similar option called Handwheel superimposition. Nice for doing mold repair. You can jog in the tool axis and whatnot.

Jeff

Quote from: YoDoug on February 28, 2023, 05:53 AMThere is a button on the Okuma mill control that we affectionately call the FSU (F$ck Sh!t Up) button. It has its uses, but it gives the user crazy abilities while the machine is running. When you turn on this button while the machine is running, even in the middle of feeding or drilling, it makes the handwheel live. When you move an axis it moves the active work offset with it for the remainder of the program, as long as the button is on. The intention of the button is to allow operators to makes quick adjustment, like Z height of a casting to to either drop offset for low stick or raise the offset for heavy stock. Another good use is to call up an indicator holder and manually sweep a part. I have never seen anything like that on a another machine and to honest, it can cause serious damage. When I worked at the distributor I saw a time where a mis-trained customer was using that button to manually move the machine, not know if they left it on the handwheel was live while machining. It was left on to the B axis and someone walked by the machine and bumped the handwheel while a massive drill was deep into a stainless part. Not a good end to that. We always trained new customers what that button was and safe usage, but they would train other employees and skip it. On the latest gen of control the button is interlocked and requires you to hold a second button to engage it.
Are you referring to the Pulse Handle Shift button?  Yeah we don't ever touch that lol.

YoDoug

Quote from: Jeff on February 28, 2023, 08:48 AMAre you referring to the Pulse Handle Shift button?  Yeah we don't ever touch that lol.

Yup, the FSU button.
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mkd

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on February 27, 2023, 07:37 PMThat one has been asked and answered. There is a system variable for that;

Tool length offset value active (by variable name):
[#_TOFS[1]] = GEO
[#_TOFS[2]] = GEO WEAR
[#_TOFS[3]] = RADIUS
[#_TOFS[4]] = RADIUS WEAR
[#_TOFS[5]] = CORNER RADIUS (if applicable)
[#_TOFS[6]] = CORNER RADIUS WEAR (if applicable)

HMMMM. [#_TOFS[3]] is not in my macro b manual.
but this is:
#5084 [#_TOFS[4]] 4TH AXIS TOOL OFFSET VALUE (GEOMETRY)
#100204 [#_TOFS[4]] 4TH AXIS TOOL OFFSET VALUE (GEOMETRY)
#5124 [#_TOFSG[4]] 4TH AXIS TOOL OFFSET VALUE (GEOMETRY)

brief search didn't produce any meaningful intelligence on how this works by a mere mortal. I'm a failure.
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mkd

Quote from: Jeff on February 28, 2023, 08:48 AMAre you referring to the Pulse Handle Shift button?  Yeah we don't ever touch that lol.
nice for getting out of a hole when the B axis turret is kicked.
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The "FSU" function Doug speaks of, in the wrong hands sure can be a problem. But, it is also really handy when used properly. Good to hear the later controls have it interlocked :)
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Tryon

That's called handle interrupt on a fanuc.  I just came across that option on a machine for the first time recently.  They were a die mold shop.
 Your right it is neat but really scary at the same time..

CNCAppsJames

Quote from: YoDoug on February 28, 2023, 08:54 AMYup, the FSU button.
Is that the Fuck Shit Up button? Asking for a friend. 

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