Biden/Harris 2024

[RobertELee]

Somebody please post some documentation or detailed analysis of what election integrity measures are in place to keep bad actors from obtaining tens of thousands of ballots that could or could not be from illegitimate voter rolls and inserting them into the count process, Security measures that make that impossible. I'll wait.

Pinky promises! They work I tell ya!!

[beej]

Shapiro has flip flopped his opinion on Trump every time he needs to get clicks and ratings.

He's been very consistent on Trump. He doesn't like his character, he does like a lot of his policies and his selection of judges. He has said it over and over again. He has a thing that he says a lot. "There is good Trump and Bad Trump." If Trump does something that Shapiro thinks is good for the country he calls it Good Trump. When Trump would go off on a tirade and pick a fight that didn't need fighting, he would call it Bad Trump.

I guess if Trump is your saviour that would be offensive to your religion. But some people just see him as a man filling the role of president who makes both good and bad decisions.

[neurosis]

Shapiro has flip flopped his opinion on Trump every time he needs to get clicks and ratings.

I used to listen to his podcast daily for years and he's been pretty consistent. I stopped listening when every podcast became about trans and gay.

As far as the "everyone always complains so it must not be true argument". They want you to believe that.

So that means that both sides should be just as capable of committing voter fraud? You'll never convince me that Republicans are the party of conscience or integrity. Why do they only complain when they lose?
 

[YoDoug]

So that means that both sides should be just as capable of committing voter fraud? You'll never convince me that Republicans are the party of conscience or integrity. Why do they only complain when they lose?
 

Nope, whoever controls the state SOS office, large precincts, and vote counting can commit the fraud. Sure in OK, AL, and a handful of other deep red states, the R's could easily cheat the system where they control it. In blue controlled states where they control the process, they have the opportunity to do it, as we saw in the last two elections.

[beej]

Somebody please post some documentation or detailed analysis of what election integrity measures are in place to keep bad actors from obtaining tens of thousands of ballots that could or could not be from illegitimate voter rolls and inserting them into the count process, Security measures that make that impossible. I'll wait.

In missouri all absentee ballots have to be stamped and signed by a notary public.

[YoDoug]

In missouri all absentee ballots have to be stamped and signed by a notary public.

Uh, in the states that are in question (MI WI, PA, GA, AZ, NV) no such provisions exist. You answer just adds to my point.

[gcode]

MI WI, PA, GA, AZ, NV

and these are the 5 states that pick our Presidents.
fix the vote in 5 cities and you fix the election

[YoDoug]

I'll go even further into the thought of how the R's could cheat just as easily a D's. In swing states if you look at the color map of red versus blue areas it is very obvious that the D's control the large metro areas and the R's control the rural. This makes it nearly impossible for the R's to cheat. They do not have access or the cover of large metro populations to order excess bulk ballots. In the large metro blue areas they do. Also, to insert tens of thousands of illegal votes into the process would need to be done in a massive coordination across the entire Red areas to hide the crime. It is night and day difference for a small group of bad actors in large blue districts to insert those illegal votes and keep it hidden. The logistics of the cheat make it a Dem problem.

[beej]

I'll go even further into the thought of how the R's could cheat just as easily a D's. In swing states if you look at the color map of red versus blue areas it is very obvious that the D's control the large metro areas and the R's control the rural. This makes it nearly impossible for the R's to cheat. They do not have access or the cover of large metro populations to order excess bulk ballots. In the large metro blue areas they do. Also, to insert tens of thousands of illegal votes into the process would need to be done in a massive coordination across the entire Red areas to hide the crime. It is night and day difference for a small group of bad actors in large blue districts to insert those illegal votes and keep it hidden. The logistics of the cheat make it a Dem problem.

So here's an idea, instead of trying to out cheat the other side, why not find a candidate that would appeal to both rural and urban voters? Why not find a candidate articulate enough to explain to urban voters how his/her policies help them? Why not find a candidate who can not only invigorate his base but also appeal to swing voters and independents?

[YoDoug]

So here's an idea, instead of trying to out cheat the other side, why not find a candidate that would appeal to both rural and urban voters? Why not find a candidate articulate enough to explain to urban voters how his/her policies help them? Why not find a candidate who can not only invigorate his base but also appeal to swing voters and independents?

Would that even matter. You find a unicorn candidate that can do what you say, but the cheaters just cheat more? We need to fix the integrity of voting first or nothing will change. Also, this magical candidate you speak of, when the left controls the majority of the press, social media, and the deep state, how do you reach those swing voters and independents?

[CNCAppsJames]

So here's an idea, instead of trying to out cheat the other side, why not find a candidate that would appeal to both rural and urban voters?

You're new around here aren't you?





The MAIN reason the the Electoral College exists is because The Founders KNEW that urban areas would run roughshod all over the rural areas. They knew this 247 years ago and not one thing has changed. Large urban shitholes are STILL try to tell rural America how they should live.

Good luck finding a candidate that BOTH would support. One area just wants to be left alone to live their lives in peace, the other wants to impose it's will on the populace.

[neurosis]

it is very obvious that the D's control the large metro areas and the R's control the rural.

Is it possible that the majority of the Country is just moving more left?  When is the last time a Republican won the popular vote? Would there ever be a Republican in office again if it weren't for the electoral college?

Not to kick a dead horse, but if they keep beating the abortion drum, they're likely to find out sooner than they think. At least Trump is smart enough to stay out of that fight.

Crap, did I just call Trump smart?   

[YoDoug]

Is it possible that the majority of the Country is just moving more left?  When is the last time a Republican won the popular vote? Would there ever be a Republican in office again if it weren't for the electoral college?

Not to kick a dead horse, but if they keep beating the abortion drum, they're likely to find out sooner than they think. At least Trump is smart enough to stay out of that fight.

Crap, did I just call Trump smart?   

Trump got more votes in 2020 than any other presidential candidate before. If the country is moving left, it is only slightly.

Nonetheless, I'm still waiting for proof of election integrity that keeps small groups of bad actors from committing large scale election fraud.

[Smit]

Not to kick a dead horse, but if they keep beating the abortion drum, they're likely to find out sooner than they think.

I don't  know about you but it sure seems to me the LGBTQ hate drum has replaced the abortion drum. Not many people will stand up against the LGBTQ hate and the abortion drum was largely responsible for them getting their asses handed to them last election. (Along with mounds and mounds of crazy of course. )

Repugs are strangely quiet about abortion nowadays.

[crazy^millman]

Is it possible that the majority of the Country is just moving more left? 

Would you see it as a benefit to our country if they did? I think we need more middle ground thought processes and involvement. Funny so many called themselves Democrats until this while Covid BS showed them what real lies are. They were some of the most vocal about mask mandates and opening up schools. Then you got the republicans screaming for more controls in places that they claimed they were against. Were either side just thinking what is best for our country and not a political party we would have never seen the whole thing get to where it is, but again those days are gone to never return to America. We are a dead country that just has not realized it yet. The next Puppet in Chief will be that just another puppet.