Banana Republic annals

[mkd]

Maybe a couple more than a couple?

Actor Danny Masterson sentenced to 30 years to life in prison for rape

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/07/1198160934/actor-danny-masterson-sentenced-to-30-years-to-life-in-prison-for-rape

for a he-said-she-said....
 easiest crime to be convicted for and the hardest to prove your innocence. ANd yes, you have to prove your innocence.

[CNCAppsJames]

Maybe a couple more than a couple?

Actor Danny Masterson sentenced to 30 years to life in prison for rape

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/07/1198160934/actor-danny-masterson-sentenced-to-30-years-to-life-in-prison-for-rape

... and yet serial rapist fmr POTUS William Jefferson Clinton walks free...as do all of Jeffrey Epstein's friends.

#NothingToSeeHere

[mkd]

... and yet serial rapist fmr POTUS William Jefferson Clinton walks free...as do all of Jeffrey Epstein's friends.

#NothingToSeeHere

"put some ice on it, honey"

[RobertELee]

I still cannot understand how a rape charge from 20+ years ago can stand up with zero evidence other than "He did it". Can't do that with murder, theft, or any other felony, why just rape?

[CNCAppsJames]

Depending on the age of the victim at the time of the rape...
 
California Penal Code 801.1 PC is the California statute that governs when a prosecutor must file charges for certain sex crimes.

Under PC 801.1, prosecutors must file charges for certain sex-related felonies:

    By the victim's 40th birthday, if the victim was under 18 years of age when the offense occurred; or,
    Within 10 years of the offense, in cases involving adult victims.

Some examples of when prosecutors can and cannot file charges involving specified sex offenses include:

    A prosecutor can file charges in 2025 for an offense involving an adult victim that took place in 2018.
    A prosecutor cannot file charges in 2030 for an offense involving an adult victim that took place in 2018.
    In a sex crime case with a 16-year-old victim, prosecutors can file charges twenty years after the fact when the victim is 36 years old.


https://www.natlawreview.com/article/california-s-expanded-statute-limitations-civil-claims-sexual-assault

[CNCAppsJames]

Here's some more detail that wasn't in the NPR piece.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/danny-masterson-sentenced-to-30-years-to-life-for-raping-former-scientologists/ar-AA1goCLY

[mkd]

Here's some more detail that wasn't in the NPR piece.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/danny-masterson-sentenced-to-30-years-to-life-for-raping-former-scientologists/ar-AA1goCLY

Wow had no idea it was that bad. Meaning the alleged victims being either in a couples relationship with him or going to his house for sex and now surprised sex happened...and now trying to recover their reputation while married to other men.
 Conservative values sure had a valuable place in culture, with courting and marriage. What a mess now that the radicals have obscured the rules.
 Years later rules for filing charges is a crime.

[neurosis]

The more I read about that case (maybe that case should have its own thread) the weirder it gets. 

MKD - that's kind of a weird take maybe?  I mean, if a woman comes to your house to have sex and changes her mind, is she obligated anyway?  What reputation are they trying to recover? 

At first I thought that maybe this was a money grab. 30 years is pretty harsh.  Was one of the victims related to the judge?  /s

You'll never hear (or read) me saying that someone who raped a woman got too much time. Putting someone in that position, you deserve to be castrated.  In this case, I can't seem to find what the actual evidence is other than their word against his.  Is there more to this story that has something to do with Scientology?   

I'm exhausted trying to find information on things that I'll forget about tomorrow.  lol.

[neurosis]

Conservative values sure had a valuable place in culture, with courting and marriage. What a mess now that the radicals have obscured the rules.

Are conservative values really that important to conservatives anymore?  Trump

[beej]

Are conservative values really that important to conservatives anymore?  Trump

I'm not sure the terms liberal or conservative apply to the parties anymore.

[mkd]

The more I read about that case (maybe that case should have its own thread) the weirder it gets. 

MKD - that's kind of a weird take maybe?  I mean, if a woman comes to your house to have sex and changes her mind, is she obligated anyway?  What reputation are they trying to recover? 

At first I thought that maybe this was a money grab. 30 years is pretty harsh.  Was one of the victims related to the judge?  /s

You'll never hear (or read) me saying that someone who raped a woman got too much time. Putting someone in that position, you deserve to be castrated.  In this case, I can't seem to find what the actual evidence is other than their word against his.  Is there more to this story that has something to do with Scientology?   

I'm exhausted trying to find information on things that I'll forget about tomorrow.  lol.

yeah talking and thinking freely here among male friends, so weird take for extremely weird persecution, agreed. To me important to think about what was not charged. Such as kidnapping. Which means the supposed victims were there of their own will.....
 On reputation, the story is old as time. Women with new men want to recant old relationships, and not admit to going somewhere for a booty call.
 This whole thing went down in the #pound_metoo era when Cosby was getting nailed for drugging victims. Just seem too much of coincidence. I take it as fiction.
 We all have our biases and I'm no different. I got run through the ringer with pedophile allegations against me. The only reason I haven't spent the last 30 years in the slammer was I was punching a paper time card every day and wasn't even there.

[CNCAppsJames]

Today. "buyers remorse" can and DOES get guys brought up on rape charges. Girl goes to guy's house/apt/hotel, they engage in CONSENTUAL sexual activity, then in the morning she feels ashamed, claims rape, then the guy's life is ruined.

:cough:
#DukeLaCrosse
:cough:
#BrianBanks
:cough:

The Duke players lost scholarships and were kicked out of the Universsity. Brian Banks lost his scholarship to USC AND served prison time. Eventually got a shot at the NFL and played for the Atlanta Falcons. He was incarcerated for a long time.

Not saying rape doesn't happen. I think we can all, sadly, agree that it does and does far more than gets reported. The problem is the women NEVER face prison time when they are guilty, and what's worse, it makes that much arder to get a convition against a true rapist.

Then you have shitbags like Stanford swimmer Brock Turner originally charged with 5 felony counts ( 1.) rape of an intoxicated person, in violation of California Penal Code § 261(a)(3), 2.) rape of an unconscious person, in violation of PC § 261(a)(4), 3.) sexual penetration of an unconscious person, in violation of PC § 289(d), 4.) sexual penetration of an intoxicated person, in violation of PC § 289(e), 5.) assault with intent to commit rape, in violation of PC § 220(a)(1) )... a shitbag of the higherst order that deserves the death penalty, instead only serves 6 lousy months because that was what Santa Clara County Judge Aaron Persky decided was adequate for raping an unconscious woman behind a dumpster. Judge Persky sentenced Turner to just six months of jail and three years of probation for his actions. Turner must also register as a sex offender. Persky noted that he came to the decision because of Turner's clean criminal record and that a harsher punishment would have left a "severe impact" on him. "I think he will not be a danger to others," Judge Persky said. 

Worse, Brock Turner's dad made a statement; "His life will never be the one that he dreamed about and worked so hard to achieve," the elder Turner wrote. "That is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action out of his 20 plus years of life."
Additionally, the father claimed that his son's life was "deeply altered" by the incident. "Brock always enjoyed certain types of food and is a very good cook himself. I was always excited to buy him a big ribeye steak to grill or to get his favorite snack for him," he added. "Now he barely consumes any food and eats only to exist." Awwww. Poor baby can't enjoy a ribeye anymore.

It's most definitely a complicated issue, made even more challenging by numerous high profile false allegations at best, and slaps on the wrist at worst for the guilty.

[neurosis]

It's most definitely a complicated issue, made even more challenging by numerous high profile false allegations at best, and slaps on the wrist at worst for the guilty.

It is complicated.  There have been women abused by high powered men who were afraid to come forward because their careers would be ruined. 

Then you have the Amber Heards who are in a mutually toxic relationship that point the finger.  Or the money grab accusations. 

Anyone who forces themselves on someone who can't defend themselves, in my opinion, deserves worse than a prison sentence.  At the same time, if you're making false accusations, you should suffer the consequence of the person you accused. 

[neurosis]

The 30 years in this case I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around without some solid evidence? I got tired of looking for it this morning. 

[CNCAppsJames]

Too many questions and not nearly enough answers.

You know what they say about LA juries...the guilty go free while the innocent perish.