Hamas surprise attack out of Gaza Strip

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mkd

Quote from: Jeff on October 10, 2023, 10:49 AMIt should be stopped, period. Especially when they are prioritizing Ukraine over Maui and the border and anything else pertaining to the U.S.
Let someone else fund the world for a change.

The ideal of American isolationism ended when women got the vote. Luckily they don't have to go into battle.

Jeff

Quote from: mkd on October 10, 2023, 10:53 AMLuckily they don't have to go into battle.

Do you mean HAVE to? As in it's optional?
Or they aren't allowed?
Last time I checked women are eligible for all combat positions but they don't specify that it's mandatory.

JParis

Quote from: mkd on October 10, 2023, 10:53 AMThe ideal of American isolationism ended when women got the vote. Luckily they don't have to go into battle.

Anyone who believes the isolationist US policy Pre-WWII really needs to review that notion

NUTS!

mkd

Quote from: Jeff on October 10, 2023, 10:59 AMDo you mean HAVE to? As in it's optional?
Or they aren't allowed?
Last time I checked women are eligible for all combat positions but they don't specify that it's mandatory.
eligible doesn't mean effective, well adivised or a net positive force multiplier. Just look at the Jessica Lynch debacle for one glaring example. Its historically stupid to send women into battle or the ballot box.
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mkd

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Quote from: JParis on October 10, 2023, 11:06 AMAnyone who believes the isolationist US policy Pre-WWII really needs to review that notion

NUTS!
The military industrial complex loves sheeple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

JParis

Quote from: mkd on October 10, 2023, 11:09 AMThe military industrial complex loves sheeple.

That is hiding behind the reality of the real world...

While I would prefer the US essentially keep to itself, there are times and then you have signed agreements with countries. If the US doesn't stand for freedom, who does?

The US has indeed made MANY boneheaded decisions and choices. That said though, you simply do not withdrawn from the world, nature abhors a vacuum.

Smarter policy, absolutely. Isolationist, absolutely, unequivocally, no.

Thankfully France didn't take such a policy a couple centuries ago
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Jeff

Quote from: mkd on October 10, 2023, 11:07 AMeligible doesn't mean effective, well adivised or a net positive force multiplier. Just look at the Jessica Lynch debacle for one glaring example. Its historically stupid to send women into battle or the ballot box.
Yeah that was sad.
They definitely wouldn't be as effective as 99% of men as infantry where strength or hand to hand combat is needed. But for sniping, recon, logistics or whatever else they'd be just as good.
I heard that some of the best snipers are women. That's coming from "The Reaper".
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Jeff

Quote from: JParis on October 10, 2023, 11:16 AMThankfully France didn't take such a policy a couple centuries ago
No kidding, we'd all have horrible teeth, and not just in Kentucky!  lol
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mkd

Quote from: JParis on October 10, 2023, 11:16 AMThat is hiding behind the reality of the real world...

While I would prefer the US essentially keep to itself, there are times and then you have signed agreements with countries. If the US doesn't stand for freedom, who does? Meanwhile we've sent treasure and blood into oblivion and got less than nothing in return.

The US has indeed made MANY boneheaded decisions and choices. That said though, you simply do not withdrawn from the world, nature abhors a vacuum.

Smarter policy, absolutely. Isolationist, absolutely, unequivocally, no.

Thankfully France didn't take such a policy a couple centuries ago
External non-interventionism been working great over the last 100 years for, our betters, China. But please, go ahead and get out over your skies with Us Doctrine. ;D
US MIC are a bunch of a$$holes.

JParis

Quote from: mkd on October 10, 2023, 11:24 AMUS MIC are a bunch of a$$holes.

Curious, do you do a lot of Defense work?

mkd

Quote from: JParis on October 10, 2023, 11:26 AMCurious, do you do a lot of Defense work?
you got me, I should have said Pentagon deep state types.

JParis

Quote from: mkd on October 10, 2023, 11:29 AMI should have said Pentagon deep state types.

There is a lot of dar shenanigans going on there between them and the CIA and other entities that is not good. I agree with that.

As much of that should be rooted out and "neutralized"....but it continues to feed on itself, creating many, though not all of the problems we see.

MIL-TFP-41

Quote from: Jeff on October 10, 2023, 11:18 AMI heard that some of the best snipers are women. That's coming from "The Reaper".
An instructor at a long range shooting school I went to last year also said as much. The women who took the class were much easier to get them plinking stuff 1000 - 1250 yards out.
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Del.

Quote from: Jeff on October 10, 2023, 11:20 AMNo kidding, we'd all have horrible teeth, and not just in Kentucky!  lol

HEY!!!!  😂
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Dan_AKA_ROY23

Jihad...

In Islam, there is no 100% guarantee a believer will go to heaven when they die - unless they perform suicide by jihad. The Qu'ran says that Allah guarantees their salvation in that manner. May be one reason to try to wrap our heads around 'why'.

Islam is a religion of works. When someone dies, the Qu'ran teaches a soul will go before Allah in judgement. There will be two angels by each side stating their case for and against (a defendant and a prosecutor, so to speak). Even though one professes belief in Allah (a true believer) - they cannot be certain of their salvation. Allah decides based on their life's activities.

This is in stark contrast to Christianity, whose teaching stresses true faith saves that person. Their salvation is guaranteed. No matter the rotten deeds one may have committed prior to their conversion to faith in Christ - they are going to heaven. Not by anything they have done to earn it, but by what Christ has done. it is a free gift of God.

So, I'm trying to understand 'their worldview'. How a true believer (though a false God, in their mind they believe to be God) could commit suicide and killing innocent victims.

For us, it makes no sense. However, they aren't us...
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