Stock Market 2023

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Quote from: Del. on August 29, 2023, 02:56 PMI'm glad I'm out. Stock market never made sense to me like you were talking about. Soo I bet My Money with Micro.
I'm Down Fitty Dollars.  :'(

Fixed...... ;D  ;D  ;D

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champshire

I'm looking for more of a passive equity to pay me 5% or more on a position. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking to park some cash and make more than a high yield savings or CD.

I currently have HTBK. It pays a decent dividend at 6.15% at the current price.

I was looking for a spot to jump into SLG (9.2%) but am uneasy about the fact that they own a lot of office space and that seems like a bad spot to be in in the current economy, post Covid panic world.

I was also looking at TSLY which is a Telsa ETF. It pays 52.81% which is out of this world. This one seems too good to be true, which makes me raise the red flag as well.

mkd

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Quote from: champshire on October 20, 2023, 03:33 AMI'm looking for more of a passive equity to pay me 5% or more on a position. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking to park some cash and make more than a high yield savings or CD.

I currently have HTBK. It pays a decent dividend at 6.15% at the current price.

I was looking for a spot to jump into SLG (9.2%) but am uneasy about the fact that they own a lot of office space and that seems like a bad spot to be in in the current economy, post Covid panic world.

I was also looking at TSLY which is a Telsa ETF. It pays 52.81% which is out of this world. This one seems too good to be true, which makes me raise the red flag as well.
Yeah that TSLY yield sure is attractive. But payouts are never free money. It always comes out of the stock price. Holders got shellacked this week with the underlying's predictable drop.
 I've been DCA'ing into the REIT sector. They are now priced historically low. WPC and O have tanked rather spectacularly and are in a buy range using any metric. WPC will be cutting dividend and spinning off the office sector, so there is risk and opportunity there.
 So the REIT sector historically has an 11% total return, to answer your question. Probabilities of price appreciation over the long term are on the upswing as their price tanks.

 BDC and Morgage REIT sector have actually been going up with higher interest. MAIN and Arbor and Hercules capitol are some good names.

Del.

Quote from: mkd on October 20, 2023, 08:25 AMYeah that TSLY yield sure is attractive. But payouts are never free money. It always comes out of the stock price. Holders got shellacked this week with the underlying's predictable drop.
 I've been DCA'ing into the REIT sector. They are now priced historically low. WPC and O have tanked rather spectacularly and are in a buy range using any metric. WPC will be cutting dividend and spinning off the office sector, so there is risk and opportunity there.
 So the REIT sector historically has an 11% total return, to answer your question. Probabilities of price appreciation over the long term are on the upswing as their price tanks.

 BDC and Morgage REIT sector have actually been going up with higher interest. MAIN and Arbor and Hercules capitol are some good names.

Box full of carrots wouldn't help me decipher this.
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mowens

Watching a lot of Bugs Bunny in your retirement?
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"I would gladly risk feeling bad at times if it also meant that I could taste my dessert." - Data

mkd

Quote from: Del. on October 20, 2023, 08:52 AMBox full of carrots wouldn't help me decipher this.
legend:
REIT; real estate investment trust
DCA; dollar cost average (small periodic buys)
BDC; business development company (publicly listed loan sharks)
WPC, Main, ARB< HTGC and O; ticker symbols
;D  ;D
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mkd

Crazy accurate market cycle predictions from post civil war era.

mkd

https://stockanalysis.com/etf/qqqy/dividend/
paying $1 per share monthly. Said another way; $571 per 10,000 invested

Dan_AKA_ROY23

Where's all the doomsdayers?

Suckers sold during the mini correction...
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mkd

First two days of nov have been good, to say the least. Almost makes up for the last month.
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Dan_AKA_ROY23

Stock market ripping higher.

Inflation was supply chain driven. The weak holders sold at the precise wrong time.

Take auto sales as an example. Prices have been dropping. Why? The FED? No. The computer chip shortage prevented auto makers from producing cars and trucks. It had nothing to do with higher demand. Everything to do with lower supply. Fast forward 18 months and the chips are rolling in, inventories replenished...and prices falling.

This could be a golden opportunity. I could see this rally extending for a good while. Stock prices has slumped when you take away the big tech AI related stocks - which held up the major indexes. It may be time the smaller cap stocks start catching up, which could translate to a very powerful, sustained rally.
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mkd

aren't the indexes basically even with ATH's from when rates were zero? This is a risk factor for the magnificent seven, at the least.
 hopefully translates to a broad based bull market. Dodged a bullet with tamping bank failure fears.

mkd

Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 on November 14, 2023, 08:35 AMIt may be time the smaller cap stocks start catching up

now that you mention it, AVUV is up substantially above the market today.

Dan_AKA_ROY23

Quote from: mkd on November 14, 2023, 09:51 AMaren't the indexes basically even with ATH's from when rates were zero? This is a risk factor for the magnificent seven, at the least.
 hopefully translates to a broad based bull market. Dodged a bullet with tamping bank failure fears.

AI big tech has been strong throughout, holding up the cap weighted indexes. With inflation easing (market's perspective), tech stocks should have more room to run higher. And smaller caps have underperformed for quite a while now. IF the FED is done raising rates, having a small cap index wouldn't be a bad idea.

Good point about the banks. The prospect of lower rates (markets pricing in rate cuts in 2024) would help the smaller banks. The bank scare was in part because the FED was aggressively raising rates, putting a strain on their margins. Then customer fears pulling out money and we had a bit of a domino effect.

AI related stocks still a play, IMO. I have Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Tesla, and Oracle. Plus QQQ benefits, also heavily in that. Time to start considering small cap funds like IJR, IWN, VB, etc.

Dan_AKA_ROY23