You guys must be so proud that you voted for Biden

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Quote from: RobertELee on January 26, 2024, 06:30 AM

The the morons on CNN/MSDNC had the audacity to question Trump's mental faculties and his age the other day.

RobertELee

Quote from: Jeff on January 26, 2024, 07:36 AMThe the morons on CNN/MSDNC had the audacity to question Trump's mental faculties and his age the other day.


I've been trolling 'The Lincoln Project' channel on YouTube. That's one of their main focuses as well. They take out of context moments like when he's mimicking Biden and state them as Trump having the issue.

But man if you want to see far lefty outrage, just read some of their comments.
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Jeff

Quote from: RobertELee on January 26, 2024, 07:52 AMBut man if you want to see far lefty outrage, just read some of their smit's comments.

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RobertELee

Quote from: Jeff on January 26, 2024, 07:59 AMfiss

I'll be the first to admit, Smit is a moderate compared to the Lincoln Project's user base.

Jeff

Quote from: RobertELee on January 26, 2024, 08:02 AMI'll be the first to admit, Smit is a moderate compared to the Lincoln Project's user base.
I can imagine how they are. There are a LOT of delusional lefties out there that have such massive TDS it's off the charts.
I personally know people that refuse to hear facts, and insist on using only libtard talking points as if they were 100% true.
Also, notice how the libtards aren't spewing the "fact check" rhetoric as much anymore if at all?


Jeff

Now the former VP wants to shut down 4 hydro-electric damns in the PNW.
This will fuck over farmers even more than he has in the last 4 years and is the reason why he wants them shut down.
Gee, I wonder who's forcing this admin to make these decisions.


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Quote from: Jeff on January 29, 2024, 05:41 AMNow the former VP wants to shut down 4 hydro-electric damns in the PNW.
This will fuck over farmers even more than he has in the last 4 years and is the reason why he wants them shut down.
Gee, I wonder who's forcing this admin to make these decisions.

The fight to shut down the dams was started by four local native tribes. The fight started local and apparently has been taken Federal pressuring the Biden admin to honor their pledge to uphold treaties. A large part of the reasoning behind it was that the dams have devastated the local salmon and steelhead runs on the Columbia river.

This has been pretty controversial in Washington State especially when were being force to go full EV by 2035.  Makes perfect sense. Force us to rely more heavily on electricity and then remove one of the States main sources of renewable energy.  :rolleyes: 
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on January 29, 2024, 05:58 AMForce us to rely more heavily on electricity
There's only 1 reason why they want to do that.
It's all about control.

neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on January 29, 2024, 06:01 AMThere's only 1 reason why they want to do that.
It's all about control.

Well, in this particular case, the Tribes are who want those dams taken down. If it weren't for the tribes, this wouldn't be an issue.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on January 29, 2024, 06:03 AMWell, in this particular case, the Tribes are who want those dams taken down. If it weren't for the tribes, this wouldn't be an issue.
Yeah I didn't know about the tribes. How long have those damns been operational? Did they protest the construction of them? Or is this all recent?

neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on January 29, 2024, 06:15 AMYeah I didn't know about the tribes. How long have those damns been operational? Did they protest the construction of them? Or is this all recent?

I believe they were built in the 30's through the 70's.  Not sure if there were protests at the time. I don't think the State and Federal governments cared (pretended to care) back in those days. 

I didn't start seeing this become a popular issue in Washington State until the last decade or so. It didn't have much public support in the beginning because the dams are the backbone of NW energy supplies.  Now that everyone has gone SJW it's starting to get more public support. I don't think that the people fighting for this realize what it's going to do to energy costs in the NW.   
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on January 29, 2024, 06:34 AMI believe they were built in the 30's through the 70's.  Not sure if there were protests at the time. I don't think the State and Federal governments cared (pretended to care) back in those days. 

I didn't start seeing this become a popular issue in Washington State until the last decade or so. It didn't have much public support in the beginning because the dams are the backbone of NW energy supplies.  Now that everyone has gone SJW it's starting to get more public support. I don't think that the people fighting for this realize what it's going to do to energy costs in the NW.   
It's not too far out there to question whether the tribes are getting paid to protest these dams or not.
What's a few million dollars if it furthers the agenda!

neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on January 29, 2024, 06:41 AMIt's not too far out there to question whether the tribes are getting paid to protest these dams or not.
What's a few million dollars if it furthers the agenda!

I doubt it.

I used to be an avid Steelhead fisherman and some of the fishing groups/forums I hung out on at the time had several local native tribes posting. There are areas of the NW that you can't fish unless you have a native guide so the forums welcomed the native guides to post and advertise.

Because of their participation on those forums you got to hear a lot of their complaints about local government and how their fisheries have been affected by our activities. Since at that time, it was one of their main sources of income, they were very vocal about it but as things go, nobody gave a shit. When I say nobody, I mean white sports fishermen. :D

I enjoyed getting the other side of the story. When you listened to most local sports fishermen the natives were the cause of all things wrong with the fisheries due to netting. When they were offered a voice via forum participation you got to hear an entirely different story. Most people didn't realize how many hatcheries were run by natives and how much work they put in to making sure the fisheries remained sustainable. As their main source of income, the fisheries were very important to them.

This fight over the dams is the next step in rebuilding those fisheries. I can see where they're coming from but I don't see how they can realistically make this work.
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