Moving to HyperMill

Started by mayday, March 25, 2024, 08:01 AM

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gcode

Quote from: Newbeeeeâ„¢ on May 15, 2024, 06:13 AMbut BC was a moduleworks partner

If you watch any ModuleWorks CAM demo they are using a CAD/CAM system I've never seen.
BobCad offers BobCad for Rhino... That may be what ModuleWorks uses for product development.

I owned a seat of Rhino 25+ years ago... it was a very good CAD software then, I'll bet it's even better now.
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gcode

Rhino3d

That ShrinkWrap module looks interesting.

riverhunter

Quote from: gcode on May 15, 2024, 04:54 AMMastercam's high speed toolpaths are proprietary.
Do you mean the Module Works Suite?

I'm almost afraid to go on BobCad's website and look.


 
Screen shot from MC and BC both sowing same module works icons for path description.  maybe a coincidence.....




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JParis

Bobcad leases the same ModuleWorks package that CNC Software leases.
The legacy 3D surfacing paths and a couple few of the 5 axis paths are Mastercams own creations.

The way they have blended them together now hides it for the most the part.

From leasing the integration into the softwares can make a big difference
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gcode

The ModuleWorks toolpaths are leased from ModuleWorks.
The high speed (dynamic milling)  toolpaths in Mastercam are proprietary to Mastercam
Mastercam developed them and owns them. As far as I know they are not used in any other CAM package.
I don't know if BobCad has high speed toolpaths or where they come from if they do.

The only thing BobCad is really good at is high pressure telemarketing.
Do not ever let BobCad get your email addy or phone number.
They will haunt you till the end of days.
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mayday

Side note
HyperMill is not for me
My MC seat is still active, I told the COO, do you want it now or in a month? One guy is using hyper in the shop and I still help him do things using MC. he sits by be and says wow thats all you had to do?
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CNCAppsJames

1st Rule of HyperMill... don't talk bad about HyperMill.

:rofl:

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mayday

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on May 27, 2024, 12:15 PM1st Rule of HyperMill... don't talk bad about HyperMill.

:rofl:

:coffee:
HippyMill smells funny
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gcode

We've had hyperMill here since 2014.
I use the Shape Offset Roughing toolpath to rough the vanes we build and that's all I use it for.
I can program the roughing toolpaths in about 8 hours and the results are pretty good.
The resulting toolpaths could be much more efficient but with hyperMill, you get what you get and you will like it.
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mayday

That game is over
move on and dont look back
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gcode

Quote from: mayday on June 25, 2024, 03:52 PMThat game is over
move on and dont look back

Sounds like they gave you an ultimatum.
Use hyperMill or hit the road.
You made the right decision.
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mayday

Back to MC at a big DOD company
8 miles from home, 15 minute drive luv it
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Jasond0530

My company moved to HyperPlop at the beginning of 2023 in the Uk, was a bad move.
did the 1st block of training(4 days) was told not to worry about getting the posts sorted/configured until we had done the 2nd lot of training a month down the line. Did that training and had to wait another 3/4 weeks for the posts, that got the bosses back up straight away that we couldn't use it.
Fast forward six months and had to ditch it. Apparently the problems we had(many of them) they didn't have a solution. There answer was that we didn't reach out to the correct level of support. Some of the stuff we asked was pretty simple to do in MC unlike z level finishing but with cusp height not z step and the 3d roughing exceeding containment boundary's in Hypermill.
6 programmers did the training, 5 of them didn't even bother with it and carried on with Mc.
wish I hadn't either.
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gcode

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Quote from: Jasond0530 on August 02, 2024, 01:43 AMMy company moved to HyperPlop at the beginning of 2023 in the Uk,
Wow, your employer spent some serious money on that!!
We have one seat and I use one toolpath, (shape offset roughing) to rough open impellers on our 5 axis Okumas
It generates reasonably efficient code with 6 to 10 hours of programming time.
I tried some swarf roughing on my last part and gave it up after wasting a few hours.
I'm sure an experienced hyperMill programmer could have produced some decent swarf roughing but I ended up moving the
roughed stock back into Mastercam to continue.
One of these days, time allowing, I'm going to try Mastercam's 5X pocket roughing toolpath and see if I can cut hypermill out of the equation all together.
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