How is this helping?

Matthew Hajicek · February 15, 2021, 12:21 PM

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beej · February 15, 2021, 12:52 PM

I don't know how that is helping, but I know what the problem is. It is a breakdown in the family unit. and in particular, the Christian family unit. I am looking at this and putting myself in her shoes, and wonder, why isn't she married to the kid's father. Where are her mom and dad to help her? Where are her circle of church friends that help in a time of need. I've been down on my luck and had tough times. Family and Church friends helped me through it. All of those are absent in the news story. But one thing is for sure, a 10 year old can not take care of a 2 year old.

Matthew Hajicek · February 15, 2021, 02:04 PM

Doesn't have to be Christian, any sort of community will do. That's part of our modern "society", we don't have communities.

When I was a teenager to mid twenties my folks took in a couple people who were down on their luck for a while, off and on. Paid them for yard work, gave them safe room and board, helped them get back on their feet. Religion had nothing to do with it.

pmartin · February 16, 2021, 05:15 AM

The cops don't just show up out of the blue checking on weather or not someone's kids are being properly cared for.
Somebody dropped a dime on that poor woman. Was it a nosy neighbor? Or was it her ex wanting to get his hands on the children?

Surface · February 16, 2021, 05:51 AM

QuoteI don't know how that is helping, but I know what the problem is. It is a breakdown in the family unit. and in particular, the Christian family unit.

I wholeheartedly agree. Societal structures are failing and looking to government for solutions is the greatest cause of its accelerated decent into a relic of a bygone era.

Matthew Hajicek · February 16, 2021, 07:43 AM

Quote from: pmartin post_id=6873 time=1613481303 user_id=85The cops don't just show up out of the blue checking on weather or not someone's kids are being properly cared for.
Somebody dropped a dime on that poor woman. Was it a nosy neighbor? Or was it her ex wanting to get his hands on the children?

Yep. At our old house we had such nosey neighbors calling the cops all the time to report that our kid was playing outside in the back yard "unsupervised!!!" (we could watch him through the window.) The law says that if the cops get a call mentioning a child, they're required to call CPS. CPS says if they get a call from the cops they're required to perform an investigation. That investigation includes searching the house (you can refuse, but then they have the power to take your kid), and visiting the kid at school. There need be no suspicion of illegality, abuse, or neglect, all it takes is a phone call, and they can do it once per week. Using the government as a weapon. Oh, and the call can be anonymous, you can't find out who did it so you have no recourse against them for harassment.

Jeff · February 16, 2021, 11:34 AM

I don't know about anyone else, but IMO you don't leave a 10 yr old to take care of a 2 year old.
Befriend a neighborhood teenage girl to babysit them or something.
Arresting her may be a bit too far given her circumstances atm,but they had to do something.

Tim Johnson · February 16, 2021, 01:43 PM

Quote from: Jeff post_id=6898 time=1613504057 user_id=103I don't know about anyone else, but IMO you don't leave a 10 yr old to take care of a 2 year old.
Befriend a neighborhood teenage girl to babysit them or something.
Arresting her may be a bit too far given her circumstances atm,but they had to do something.

When I was four I would put my two year old brother into my wagon, call the dog and go to the local grocery store
(more like a convenience store) and get candy for the two of us. The owner would limit us to one piece each and
put our candy on our parents bill.

Incogneeto · February 16, 2021, 02:36 PM

When i had visitation my son was 10 I would go to work for half a day. I had cameras set up on my Phone. He also had a phone.
I could see when he got up and what was going on. He knew what he could and could not do.

She still tried to Screw me in court.

Most times I would take him with ,But I also let him choose.

Teaching Kids Responsibility Starts Young ,You have to give them steps to Trust. He had Mine.

My Ex took that away from Him.

Cupid Stunt...(Thanks Zoob)

My Mom was raising 6 kids for a time .She left Me home alone sick from school when she went to work.

I was 5.

Soooo Yea 1965.

Incogneeto · February 16, 2021, 02:40 PM

[quote="Tim Johnson" post_id=6907 time=1613511837 user_id=68]

Quote from: Jeff post_id=6898 time=1613504057 user_id=103I don't know about anyone else, but IMO you don't leave a 10 yr old to take care of a 2 year old.
Befriend a neighborhood teenage girl to babysit them or something.
Arresting her may be a bit too far given her circumstances atm,but they had to do something.

When I was four I would put my two year old brother into my wagon, call the dog and go to the local grocery store
(more like a convenience store) and get candy for the two of us. The owner would limit us to one piece each and
put our candy on our parents bill.
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Yep Kids had Smarts back then...No Curling up in a Ball on the floor.

Kids have smarts now they call CPS and put their Parents on The Fire.

Boo Hoo Waaaa Waaa!!

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