Democrat policies

[Smit]

As someone who leans Repub but has never liked Trump, it is my sincere hope that Dem Party leadership, their supporters in the media and pop culture, take this as an opportunity for some honest self reflection.

I do not like single party control at any level of .gov.

The Dems have the opportunity move back towards the center. To abandon policies and candidates that the overwhelming majority of Americans find crazy. To embrace merit and dismiss intersectionality points as their priority selection criteria.

Or, they can double down, as they did in 2016. They can bitterly cling to their belief that their losses are due to this being a fundamentally racist, misogynistic nation. They can continue to lecture and belittle vast swaths of the electorate. And, they can continue to lose.

The choice should be easy, but I doubt it will be.

This is a good point. It's something I'm pondering a lot right now. And something worth discussing in a different thread without all the noise (although this thread will very soon be filled with noise.)

It's pretty clear Trump has the primitive, crude, rude, white supremacist, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, etc people wrapped up. Those people are his base. The Trump cult. They worship their orange god. You know who I'm talking about.

That's a pretty large portion of people in this country. Larger than I used to think it was. But not enough to win.

I do understand Harris was hardly a perfect candidate. But Trump and Vance were spewing lies, hate, threats, etc. In other words, hardly perfect candidates themselves.

So that means a lot of reasonable, rational Americans voted for Trump. I'm wondering what policies were the Democrats pushing that made moderate, reasonable, rational Americans think they would be better off voting for Trump than Harris?

[Del.]

I wish there could be peace between the two parties but after your post it is never going to happen.

[YoDoug]

So that means a lot of reasonable, rational Americans voted for Trump. I'm wondering what policies were the Democrats pushing that made moderate, reasonable, rational Americans think they would be better off voting for Trump than Harris?

In the interest of playing nice, I will say I think the biggest factor was inflation. Everyday people are faced with that reality and Kamala was not able to make any decent argument that she could fix it.

[RobertELee]

It's pretty clear Trump has the primitive, crude, rude, white supremacist, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, etc people wrapped up. Those people are his base. The Trump cult. They worship their orange god. You know who I'm talking about.

And there you go creating the noise in your own thread.

[Smit]

In the interest of playing nice, I will say I think the biggest factor was inflation. Everyday people are faced with that reality and Kamala was not able to make any decent argument that she could fix it.

That is plausible. But the world wide wave of inflation has come down now. The Fed has even lowered interest rates one time. There will be more in the future.

If people don't understand why that inflation happened and that it has come down significantly then that was very likely a factor.

But it's not a policy. Nobody has a high inflation policy.

[Del.]

That is plausible. But the world wide wave of inflation has come down now. The Fed has even lowered interest rates one time. There will be more in the future.

If people don't understand why that inflation happened and that it has come down significantly then that was very likely a factor.

But it's not a policy. Nobody has a high inflation policy.

The RATE of inflation has lowered. The PRICE of things hasn't.

[Elmer Fudd]

    I got friends in low places.

[RobertELee]

The RATE of inflation has lowered. The PRICE of things hasn't.

And my family income hasn't caught up one bit to any of it. My mortgage was $2400/month in 2020, as of last week it is $3300/month. That is NOT my mortgage going up, it is insurance, taxes, and other bullshit in escrow. I'm sure it will go up another $100/month next year because we had a huge school referendum go through yesterday.

Not many families income has gone up $1000/month in the last 4 years except for those living off minimum wage...

[beej]

I'm wondering what policies were the Democrats pushing that made moderate, reasonable, rational Americans think they would be better off voting for Trump than Harris?

I probably don't meet those qualifications to answer, but here I am anyway.

1) quit telling me I'm racist because I vote republican. there are plenty of racists who vote democrat. racism knows no party. But I know that I don't hate people based on skin color, and when someone accuses me of it, I'm done with them.

2) if you want to talk democrat policies, giving first time home buyers 25,000 to make housing affordable is just about as bad of an idea as I can think of. The price of solar panels quickly went up by the exact price of the green energy tax credit once that was started. I know that because a close friend had some installed prior to the tax credit. And when they started that tax credit, I told my wife, that credit makes them affordable, and when I got a quote for the same size system it was 40% higher than my friend had just paid 2 years earlier.

3) the idea of going soft on crime to keep people out of prison in order to stop a cycle of men not raising their children, is a terrible idea. For one, it incentivizes crime as seen in the snatch and grab schemes in Cali. It also exposes children to being raised by fathers who participate in crime and violence. and ignores the victims of those crimes which is most often the weaker members of the same race.

4) Trying to keep new stories suppressed that don't match the narrative you want to spin, is not a good look, especially in an age when people can just share those stories through social media. Then what do they have to do to stop the spread of those stories? control the social media in the name of false information. The censors always come out looking like the bad guys. The most obvious example of that was the Biden laptop story. If that were the only time, you might look past it, but then you have the stories where the media actively tried to mislead us. Like in the case where the Native American gentleman taunted a teenager with a MAGA hat, they had video of the truth and just suppressed it to sell a story of MAGA racism.

when I say YOU in these examples, I don't mean you personally, I mean Democrats as a group.

[Del.]

And my family income hasn't caught up one bit to any of it. My mortgage was $2400/month in 2020, as of last week it is $3300/month. That is NOT my mortgage going up, it is insurance, taxes, and other bullshit in escrow. I'm sure it will go up another $100/month next year because we had a huge school referendum go through yesterday.

Not many families income has gone up $1000/month in the last 4 years except for those living off minimum wage...

How big a house you got?

[YoDoug]

I also think the Left, including Kamala and Biden, pushed a lot of extreme left issues which don't poll well with moderates. Most polling shows moderates have a very live and let live attitude towards social issues, but when you constantly get in their face with Trans issues and biological men in women's sports, it pushes people against you.

[Del.]

Democrat Policy?

Rainbows and Unicorns

[RobertELee]

How big a house you got?

3000sqft on 1/2acre. Worth about $600k. Average suburban home in this town.

[Newbeeee™]

Democrat Policy?

Rainbows and Unicorns

Don't forget unlimited immigration with free money 

[Incogneeto]

I wish there could be peace between the two parties but after your post it is never going to happen.

Yea I commented toward Smit in a positive sense.

I regret That now.

Ya gotta let go.