Oh No !! Are you serious??

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Smit

Quote from: neurosis on December 03, 2024, 06:36 AMThe fact that Republicans defend that and celebrate the thought of it confirms everything I believe about the current state of our Republican party and it's supporters.

Yeah. They confirm and confirm and just keep on confirming.

gcode

Quote from: neurosis on December 03, 2024, 05:47 AMDo you think that EVERYONE who was in the Capitol on Jan 6th should receive a pardon?

a blanket pardon, no
however, there are a whole lot of people who were excessively charged and overly sentenced.
There was a grandmother who got 2 years for walking into the Capitol Building while a Capitol policeman held the door for her.
There were also people there who came with the intent of committing violence.

The entire investigation has been so corrupt and politized, the full truth will never be known.
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Smit

Quote from: gcode on December 03, 2024, 06:45 AMThe entire investigation has been so corrupt and politized, the full truth will never be known.

Lol. There's a lot of that going around!  :lol:
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neurosis

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on December 03, 2024, 06:43 AMAnd YES, the insurrection charges, or lack thereof ARE a big deal.
The media trotted out that word and started throwing it around within minutes of the PROTEST, but what those people did never rose to the level of an actual insurrection.

So what?  And why is that a big deal?

People who broke the law should get a free pass because the media said <insert who cares what the media said here>

I'll agree that pushing that narrative wasn't smart, but people still broke the law.


Quote from: Jim at Gentex on December 03, 2024, 06:43 AMYet when cities burned during the BLM and ANTIFA riots where multiple people did lose their lives, and millions of dollars worth of property damage was done, the same media insisted those were 'peaceful protests'.


You'll never see me defending that just to be clear. People did go to prison during those riots. Not enough in my opinion. That still doesn't justify what happens on Jan 6th.


Ok, enough soap box for the day.  :D






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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on December 03, 2024, 06:50 AMbut people still broke the law.

Hunter and associates? Just want to clarify who you mean.
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neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on December 03, 2024, 06:54 AMHunter and associates? Just want to clarify who you mean.

No, I was talking about Steve Bannon and his associates.  :D  The ones who ripped off Trump supporters and then were pardoned by Trump? 

 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on December 03, 2024, 07:01 AMNo, I was talking about Steve Bannon and his associates.  :D  The ones who ripped off Trump supporters and then were pardoned by Trump? 

 


So everybody gets a pardon except innocent grandmas who were invited into the capital by the police.
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Jim at Gentex

Nobody is above the law, remember?

Six months ago Biden took the moral high ground and lectured us all about that, remember?

I am fully convinced that career politicians ON BOTH SIDES are only lying to us when their lips are moving.

That's why I believe Trump is going out of his way to appoint people like Pete Hegseth, Pam Biondi, RFK Jr., Kash Patel, et al, who are NOT career politicians (i.e., swamp rats) and who WILL actually bring reform to the broken system we have been living under for decades.

The more the MSM howls about these people being 'unqualified' the better I think they will do their respective jobs.  :yes:

Time will tell...
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neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on December 03, 2024, 07:04 AMSo everybody gets a pardon except innocent grandmas who were invited into the capital by the police.

Apparently everyone gets a pardon. In my opinion, NOBODY who broke the law should be getting a pardon.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on December 03, 2024, 07:04 AMSo everybody gets a pardon except innocent grandmas who were invited into the capital by the police.

Is this the Grandma we're talking about? I honestly have no clue who the Grandma is.

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-praying-grandma-jan-6-7e404e0e228d6e5c8f63688cc2a61f3f

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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on December 03, 2024, 07:10 AMIs this the Grandma we're talking about? I honestly have no clue who the Grandma is.

Honestly I also have no idea who the "grandmas" are that everyone keeps mentioning. I was just stirring the pot.
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neurosis

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on December 03, 2024, 07:07 AMKash Patel

Wasn't he pushing some kind of vaccine reversal pill?  :lol:

It sounds like Pete Hegseth is having a rough time. His family must be going through hell right now.
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Jeff


Jim at Gentex

Quote from: neurosis on December 03, 2024, 07:07 AMIn my opinion, NOBODY who broke the law should be getting a pardon.

Does that include people who crossed the southern U.S. border illegally?
Because they are ALL criminals by definition under 8 U.S.C 1324.

Many of them even went on to commit MORE crimes once they got here, so shouldn't they be at the front of the line for deportation?

Read up on 8 U.S.C 1324 if you don't believe me...
https://www.federalcriminaldefenseadvocates.com/harbor-aliens

Pay particular attention to this part:
8 U.S.C. 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it a crime to knowingly harbor, shield knowingly, or conceal an unauthorized alien, including providing shelter, food, finances; 

So by extension, every 'sanctuary' state and city is also in violation of this LAW, to include PERSONALLY the Governor(s) and Mayor(s) of said states and cities.

Yes, this IS THE LAW, and I couldn't agree with you more that anyone found guilty of breaking it should NOT get any kind of free pass.  :yes: 
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